Fediverse Futures
test from mastodon
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If you don't mind, I delete this post again. This is not a community for such tests, there may be a Lemmy-related one that's better suited.
humanetech
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Adding reference to HN submission of this article. Discussion thus far has 233 comments.
humanetech
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I maintain some lists too, PR's welcome:
humanetech
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Have a look at #flohmarkt, federated decentral classified ad software using #activitypub: https://codeberg.org/grindhold/flohmarkt By @grindhold@chaos.social
www.wired.com
Found via [@gulovsen@mastodon.social's toot](https://mastodon.social/@gulovsen/110796116576813592): >My reaction reading the following quote from #Wired... > >"The #Fediverse apps are all built on a set of rules called the #ActivityPub standard, which is a little like HTML had sex with a calendar invite. It’s a content polycule. The questions it evokes are the same as with any polycule: What are the rules? How big can this get? Who will create the chore chart?"
www.rappler.com
Found via [@Norobiik@nok.social](https://noc.social/@Norobiik/110784486616756649): >When Meta finally gets serious about entering the EU is the time they'll get serious about #ActivityPub. > >"The #EU’s #DigitalMarketsAct (DMA) is a 2022 legislation that regulates the digital market competition in the region. It prevents #TechGiants (#Meta, #Amazon, #Apple, and #Google) from cornering the market of a specific product or service, and allows smaller companies to compete against them." > >Why isn't #Threads in the EU? The app tests the bloc's new #PrivacyLaw
humanetech
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Oh, that kind is good. Constructive feedback is very valuable. But the fediverse is full of people dropping derogatory sarcastic comments or even reacting in rage, that aren't helpful in the slightest. I should've made that clearer in my first comment.
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There's no responsibility at all. There's also full freedom to complain however you wish. If you do that on someone's free work with which they try to help others, it just doesn't look very good on you. That's all.
Fediverse Futures
Dating on the Fediverse: Alovoa - Meet new, exciting people!
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Dating-like apps come up in fedi discussions quite often. They have interesting aspects, for instance where obviously privacy is a big concern and where current generation of federated apps aren't adequate for dating. And how do communities / instances establish their trustworthiness? There are kinds of 'dating' were the requirements can be less severe. Like "Meet new Friends" kind of services where e.g. you seek folks for collaborative gameplay in some MMORPG or something.
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One thing I don't get. Among the gazilion "Oh, it is sooo easy to do this better" complainers are countless developers and designers. This whole Mastodon thing is Free Software, where countless people spent some of their free time and energy to give you what there is today. Complainer devs and UX folks, are your PR's getting rejected?
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Well, you are a Person too in this Peopleverse. If that's your preference, that's perfectly fine and a valid coice. Whatever enriches your life!
Fediverse Futures
Federated Moderation: Towards Delegated Moderation?
humanetech
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IFTAS: "Independent Federated Trust and Safety", a non-profit, has started to deal with "everything moderation".
humanetech
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Yes, but it is the general idea. We are so focused on apps. In a follow-up Towards a #Peopleverse I argue that more of a shared vision is what we need to get the Fediverse to its full potential.
Fediverse
Want to watch the [#threadiverse](https://social.wake.st/tags/threadiverse) growing by the hour?
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As a clarification to this reply I wrote Towards a #Peopleverse.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1230183 > Just gave my satyrical take on [The Splinterverse](https://lemmy.ml/post/1229760). Grassroots movements adopt an implicit "Divided we will be conquered" approach, where big corporate newcomers can easily disrupt with Big Marketing™ followed by an Eternal September by their user influx to the Fediverse. The Muskening™ already gave a taste of that. > > Currently new channels are abuzz with the Reddit shenanigans, and there's potential for another influx. People are inventing names like "threadiverse" for forum-like federated apps. There's a broader vibe where people come to the realization that [enshittification](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/enshittification) on proprietary walled garden platforms is inevitable, and that the old web is re-emerging with blogs and webrings. And the heterogenous Social Web with countless alternative federated/decentralized apps where there isn't a single gatekeeper. That opportunity certainly exists (as Meta likely know all too wel also). > > The common name that has stuck is "Fediverse", or affectionally spoken the "fedi". Many say it is a bad name, and maybe it is. It is a name you get used to, though, and it is not easy _at all_ to introduce a new name in a grassroots movement. > > But that is NOT what I find important at all .. > > The Fediverse has slowly matured during many years. That slow growth has shaped an all-important aspect: A vibrant culture. This is what all growth-hacking enterpreneurial minds easily overlook. There have been a shit ton of social media launched.. and failed. The big ones we have have their solid position with FOMO and network effects. Those who say social media is easy have survivorship bias. > > _"It is the culture that matters, stupid!"_ > > I love all the quirky aspects of the Fediverse. The diversity and inclusion. The weird angles. And also, weirdly enough.. the friction. Friction to get on the Fediverse has also served as a filter. We now have 'competitor' decentralized social networks with Nostr and Bluesky. "Nostr is developing way faster.. come to us!" --> This is a purely technical viewpoint. Wait till you see what culture that creates. Technical buzzwords like "encryption", "censorship-resistance", "micropayment", etc. that seem like features may see all the wrong types being attracted to those networks. > > What I feel is the biggest thing that is missing on the Fediverse is a **shared vision**, a common notion of where we are headed, where the potential of the Fediverse is, what we might achieve collectively. > > It is "App focus". App app app app app ... **Apps are siloes!** > > Related to "marketing against Meta" it was asked "Where is the Mastodon branding agency?" --> They branded an app, not an ecosystem / online environment. And them being successful means we have this big confusion now, where people "Join the Mastodon". We should get rid of app focus. > > The vision that appeals to me, and I am advocating for quite a while is that of a **Peopleverse** to emerge. > > - Fediverse (technical) --> Peopleverse (social) > > The Peopleverse is NOT a name.. it is an abstract idea, a vision of how things might be. The Peopleverse is where people find value online. Where they interact with others in a way that is enriching to their lives. It is where online and offline worlds are seamlessly intertwined. > > Considered like that means that this Peopleverse will also have implications for the technical perspective, when looking at the Fediverse technology landscape and ecosystem. It highlights the amount of socio-technological support that is needed. It highlights a **technology vision** that encompasses the Fediverse's full potential.
Just gave my satyrical take on [The Splinterverse](https://lemmy.ml/post/1229760). Grassroots movements adopt an implicit "Divided we will be conquered" approach, where big corporate newcomers can easily disrupt with Big Marketing™ followed by an Eternal September by their user influx to the Fediverse. The Muskening™ already gave a taste of that. Currently new channels are abuzz with the Reddit shenanigans, and there's potential for another influx. People are inventing names like "threadiverse" for forum-like federated apps. There's a broader vibe where people come to the realization that [enshittification](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/enshittification) on proprietary walled garden platforms is inevitable, and that the old web is re-emerging with blogs and webrings. And the heterogenous Social Web with countless alternative federated/decentralized apps where there isn't a single gatekeeper. That opportunity certainly exists (as Meta likely know all too wel also). The common name that has stuck is "Fediverse", or affectionally spoken the "fedi". Many say it is a bad name, and maybe it is. It is a name you get used to, though, and it is not easy _at all_ to introduce a new name in a grassroots movement. But that is NOT what I find important at all .. The Fediverse has slowly matured during many years. That slow growth has shaped an all-important aspect: A vibrant culture. This is what all growth-hacking enterpreneurial minds easily overlook. There have been a shit ton of social media launched.. and failed. The big ones we have have their solid position with FOMO and network effects. Those who say social media is easy have survivorship bias. _"It is the culture that matters, stupid!"_ I love all the quirky aspects of the Fediverse. The diversity and inclusion. The weird angles. And also, weirdly enough.. the friction. Friction to get on the Fediverse has also served as a filter. We now have 'competitor' decentralized social networks with Nostr and Bluesky. "Nostr is developing way faster.. come to us!" --> This is a purely technical viewpoint. Wait till you see what culture that creates. Technical buzzwords like "encryption", "censorship-resistance", "micropayment", etc. that seem like features may see all the wrong types being attracted to those networks. What I feel is the biggest thing that is missing on the Fediverse is a **shared vision**, a common notion of where we are headed, where the potential of the Fediverse is, what we might achieve collectively. It is "App focus". App app app app app ... **Apps are siloes!** Related to "marketing against Meta" it was asked "Where is the Mastodon branding agency?" --> They branded an app, not an ecosystem / online environment. And them being successful means we have this big confusion now, where people "Join the Mastodon". We should get rid of app focus. The vision that appeals to me, and I am advocating for quite a while is that of a **Peopleverse** to emerge. - Fediverse (technical) --> Peopleverse (social) The Peopleverse is NOT a name.. it is an abstract idea, a vision of how things might be. The Peopleverse is where people find value online. Where they interact with others in a way that is enriching to their lives. It is where online and offline worlds are seamlessly intertwined. Considered like that means that this Peopleverse will also have implications for the technical perspective, when looking at the Fediverse technology landscape and ecosystem. It highlights the amount of socio-technological support that is needed. It highlights a **technology vision** that encompasses the Fediverse's full potential.
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If it wasn't clear, this is satyrical. The fragmentation of the Fediverse as a grassroots movement has good and bad aspects. Good, because it highlights its diversity and with that comes resilience. Bad, because we got Facebook coming our way, along with countless corporations that'll follow in their wake.. they can easily flood what we have under a see of branding and marketing (and yes, you'll be able to avoid that, but the Fediverse won't be the same).
"Hey, are you on Mastodon?" "I joined The Mastadon network if that's what ya mean." "Wait an instance. You are both using the Fediverse protocol." "Ha. Well.. I joined the Threadiverse and like that way better." "Is Lemmyverse connected to that?" "Dunno. Let's ask at ActivityPub." "Yay, beer 🍻 It is Friday." "ActivityPub isn't a real pub, it is a community of sorts." "Hi there.. dialing in from the #Pixieverse 👋 Can you see me?" #Fediverse #ActivityPub #Threadiverse #Mastadon #TheMastodon #Lemmyverse #Pixieverse #Vidiverse #Web69
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humanetech
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Fully agree. Those doing Groups need to be continuously reminded about this compatibility. Tendency to "wheel reinvention" is high and co-creation is also not front and center in thinking with implementers, unfortunately. There's a Groups FEP created by Lemmy dev. I nudged Flarum, nodeBB and Discourse folks to come together. On SocialHub @trwnh gave some great insights. I hope more FEP's will be proposed, so that interop guarantees can be higher.
humanetech
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Current functionality of the plugin is still rather limited. The following 2 categories federate:
- https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/standards/fep/54
- https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/fediversity/fediverse-futures/58
But right now that only creates a toot on a new topic creation, and replies from the fediverse aren't becoming replies in the forum. Hellekin has experimented with it, and SocialHub is open to beta-test.
humanetech
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Oh for sure it would benefit a lot. A migration to Lemmy has come up in the past.. though it would mean losing a ton of community/forum management features. But there's movement towards federation of SocialHub, with The Pavilion who wrote an ActivityPub plugin. It is enabled on the SocialHub and 2 categories are currently federating. The plugin will be developed further, and feedback is being collected. See:
- https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/adding-federation-support-to-discourse/2966
- https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/welcome-discourse-to-the-fediverse/3275
- https://meta.discourse.org/t/federation-support-for-discourse/90921/106
- https://meta.discourse.org/t/activitypub-plugin/266794
Two more forum softwares are adding federation support: Flarum and nodeBB
You can help by boosting my toot, but when offering help, the [SocialHub forum discussion](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/anyone-keen-on-a-fediverse-conference-in-2023-24/3167) is the best place to do so.
humanetech
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That second comment by goplayoutside says it well: "Maybe the modest technical hurdles are a feature, not a bug."
I think it is a feature, and the same is true for Mastodon and the Fediverse as a whole, imho.
As Reddit's enshittification reaches new heights their attempts to suppress attention for alternatives, like federated Lemmy, has the opposite effect as this Hacker News discussion shows.
Fediverse Futures
Federated Moderation: Towards Delegated Moderation?
humanetech
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Via @indieterminacy@lemmy.ml and the author Sarah Gilbert via this toot presenting her paper "Towards Intersectional Moderation: An Alternative Model of Moderation Built on Care and Power" (PDF).
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
humanetech
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The reason for the comment count being off has been found. In Settings you need to have 'Undetermined' in your language selection, or any comment where language wasn't specified becomes invisible (incl. old comments before language was a property on posts).
Fediverse Futures
Will Forge Federation turn the tide of One-Stop-Shop Software Development?
humanetech
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Thanks for those links. Note btw that Github is planning their own moves wrt one-stop-shop development. You can get a taste of that at https://githubnext.com where they share some of their product research with the public. A scary (for FOSS) development here, is Blocks marketplace that will serve to consolidate 3rd-party ecosystem product UI's on their own platform.
Copying some of my [thoughts](https://matrix.to/#/!SakSkZqjzMsaPCVqlv:matrix.batsense.net/$sZiISAydRsc6bnrAd3GimuOpvxmR_TYzJtkWkABa7aw?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=envs.net) from [forge federation](https://matrix.to/#/#general-forgefed:matrix.batsense.net) chatroom: --- Hmm, I have bumped into repl.it in the past, marked it as "interesting" for myself, and moved on. Yesterday https://replit.com became the [hot thing on HN](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35803435) (though on AI topics). Just again navigating the site now.. and here we see another platform operating on a breadth of services, that may just give Github folks a cold sweat. It is not all smooth.. there are quirks in the site. But they are highly innovative, it shows. And apparently raking in investment money. Here we have another one-stop-shop integrated experience offering "Help with Software Development". I wonder what this disruptive trend will mean for FOSS code forges in the future. We are moving towards this: - Most devs: "We develop in Github / Replit / JetBrains / Gitlab.. it great. Highly productive." - FOSS folks: "Use our tools. We have a huge patchwork of them, and you must configure them all, copy/paste between, have manual processes, and who needs that slick UX, right?" (Actually this is already the current situation) The tagline on Replit is interesting (highlight mine): _"Build software collaboratively with the power of AI, on any device, **without spending a second on setup**"_ We are so used to the way we develop software now, that we think that setting all the infra, CI, docker/k8s, what-have-you, and then configuring/tweaking, documenting it in README and Docs comes with the job. Well, it does not. It is a huge time-waster and the low-hanging fruit of increasing productivity. Any platform that removes all that from the picture, turned into some point-and-click UI, selecting from a marketplace of dev environments, etc. will give any manager 🤩 eyes.. and competitive advantage. And that's only the start. There's so many other common chores to be taken out of the equation on one-stop-shop automated online platforms. In this trend I also expect Git to die eventually. It is very powerful tool, and lovely to do common things. But devs hate it when more advanced Git things need to be done. In the one-stop-shop future, git is implementation detail abstracted away deep in the platform. You don't need to be aware of it, even when developing locally offline. Because you will do that based on a full-blown "dev environment" package that you obtain from the platform. - "I want to develop offline" --> sync local all-in dev package --> start package, code in package's IDE offline --> syncs back automatically when online again. - "I want to contribute to this other project with other infra/techstack" --> click & code --> done. I might also highlight the _"**collaboratively**"_ in the same tagline. Replit already offers collaborative coding where - similar to Google Docs - you see the other people's cursor and activities. But this collaboration will of course be scaled to include the needs of any type of stakeholder involved in the Software Development process. That this will happen is a no-brainer. Most software projects fail because of all the handovers between stakeholders with poor collab and communication barriers. The idea behind [Social Coding](https://coding.social/) and the Free Software Development Lifecycle ([FSDL](https://discuss.coding.social/t/brainstorm-components-of-the-free-software-development-lifecycle-wiki-post/53)), is that we in the Free Software movement should spend time to fill the gaps in this regard, where the FOSS movement is even weaker than corporate IT world with our tech-mostly focus.
Fediverse Futures
Federated Moderation: Towards Delegated Moderation?
humanetech
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A very long and interesting thread about ins and outs of moderation, blocklists and "stamps": https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/110282095565936268
meta.discourse.org
humanetech
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No, unfortunately. I filed an issue.
humanetech
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Thanks. Your comment is also only visible from Notifications. I created this issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/985
humanetech
1 year ago
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Thank you. Yes, I created an issue at: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/985
humanetech
1 year ago
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Your comment is unreachable, when I try to follow it. Now answering from my notifications screen.
humanetech
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humanetech
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Something is buggy, maybe..? I saw one comment from a user on LemmyGrad in notifications. Clicking on the 'link' icon didn't navigate to this post. So I went to landing page, then to this post. Now I see there are 3 comments here, but only 1 is shown with a reply, but this only says "1 more reply -->" and clicking it has no effect, nor has reloading the page. (btw, Firefox 111.01 on Ubuntu)
lemmy.ml
The recent Lemmy post with the "Can ActivityPub save the internet?" link, says there are 4 comments. They can't be viewed from Lemmy however. Copy/paste the URL in Mastodon and the comments become visible (they are all non-Lemmy commenters).
Fediverse Futures
Federated Moderation: Towards Delegated Moderation?
humanetech
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Here's an article by Bluesky on "Composable Moderation":
Centralized social platforms delegate all moderation to a central set of admins whose policies are set by one company. This is a bit like resolving all disputes at the level of the Supreme Court. Federated networks delegate moderation decisions to server admins. This is more like resolving disputes at a state government level, which is better because you can move to a new state if you don’t like your state's decisions — but moving is usually difficult and expensive in other networks. We’ve improved on this situation by making it easier to switch servers, and by separating moderation out into structurally independent services.
We’re calling the location-independent moderation infrastructure “community labeling” because you can opt-in to an online community’s moderation system that's not necessarily tied to the server you're on.
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/952618 > Fediverse is going mainstream fast. And it is going to be a corporate hellhole if the grassroots initiatives that drove it to its current success are losing their grip on evolution in proper direction: Humane tech that is to the benefit of the people andd society, free culture thriving. > > While corporate threads are looming, meanwhile the activated developer community is once again splintering, fragmenting initiatives appearing that dilute attention to focus on common efforts, cohesion, cross-pollination and collaboration. The "herding cats" problem of grassroots movements. > > Great opportunity is now. Cohesion means that initiatives remain independent, but take care to coordinate with what is going on elsewhere. > > 👉 You can help! Avoid a CorporaVerse where you are exploited and milked. Bring attention to the opportunity and participate in the related initiatives to help bring them closer together. You might also boost my [related toot](https://social.coop/@dansup@mastodon.social/110195527051725892#).
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/952618 > Fediverse is going mainstream fast. And it is going to be a corporate hellhole if the grassroots initiatives that drove it to its current success are losing their grip on evolution in proper direction: Humane tech that is to the benefit of the people andd society, free culture thriving. > > While corporate threads are looming, meanwhile the activated developer community is once again splintering, fragmenting initiatives appearing that dilute attention to focus on common efforts, cohesion, cross-pollination and collaboration. The "herding cats" problem of grassroots movements. > > Great opportunity is now. Cohesion means that initiatives remain independent, but take care to coordinate with what is going on elsewhere. > > 👉 You can help! Avoid a CorporaVerse where you are exploited and milked. Bring attention to the opportunity and participate in the related initiatives to help bring them closer together. You might also boost my [related toot](https://social.coop/@dansup@mastodon.social/110195527051725892#).
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
Fediverse is going mainstream fast. And it is going to be a corporate hellhole if the grassroots initiatives that drove it to its current success are losing their grip on evolution in proper direction: Humane tech that is to the benefit of the people andd society, free culture thriving. While corporate threads are looming, meanwhile the activated developer community is once again splintering, fragmenting initiatives appearing that dilute attention to focus on common efforts, cohesion, cross-pollination and collaboration. The "herding cats" problem of grassroots movements. Great opportunity is now. Cohesion means that initiatives remain independent, but take care to coordinate with what is going on elsewhere. 👉 You can help! Avoid a CorporaVerse where you are exploited and milked. Bring attention to the opportunity and participate in the related initiatives to help bring them closer together. You might also boost my [related toot](https://social.coop/@dansup@mastodon.social/110195527051725892#).
Fediverse Futures
Federated Moderation: Towards Delegated Moderation?
humanetech
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RapidBlock have a Github project in Golang for the syndication of fediverse block lists, and a way to distribute them via apt.
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
Sorry, gotta divulge that this was an April Fools. It is the opposite.. we want to get more cohesion and collab in [The Grassroots Fediverse](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/ideating-organization-structure-for-the-grassroots-fediverse-wiki/3037) as a counterbalance to mainstreaming and corporate takeover forces.
Quoting the toot sent out by the blog: > In this blog post I sum up and review the experiences gained from last Stream. Check out the [VOD](https://youtu.be/RuvVvxwT1tY) If you like this content and would love to send me some treats you can Subscribe on my [GitHub Sponsor Page](https://github.com/sponsors/Toasterson) or checkout all the other pages via [Linktree](https://linktr.ee/toasterson) If you would like to have me as a coworker or consultant I am available for hire! #fedihire
Fediverse
Lemmy shows how Fediverse-connected message boards can work. So is it time for a Fediverse-connected general purpose message board platform (like phpBB)? Is anyone working on this?
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Pavilion had early plans to create a plugin, and applied for a NLnet grant. When that wasn't accepted they put their plans in the freezer. It is only recently, after The Muskening™ that they picked up on it again.
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Indeed. "Sense of community" is an aspect where additional socio-technical support native to the Fediverse can be quite helpful. We have the basics now. There's work to add Groups support, but community is more than just groups. It has intricate and meaningful relationships between many other groups and people. Just like in real life.
Fediverse
Lemmy shows how Fediverse-connected message boards can work. So is it time for a Fediverse-connected general purpose message board platform (like phpBB)? Is anyone working on this?
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Apart from that The Pavilion cooperative has announced they work on a Discourse forum plugin for the Fediverse. And also I got word from the Flarum maintainer that they have plans to add support (but there's been silence after that).
Update: Here's a thread on Flarum's ongoing work: https://discuss.flarum.org/d/31943-federation-extension
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Ah, that is due to the particular app that is being used, called Bovine. @helge@mymath.rocks (also not directly browser-accessible) wrote:
🚨🚨🚨 DON'T! This suggestion leads to Spaghetti Architecture.
First, Client to Server specifies how to one client talks to one server. This change is about one Client (in a browser) talking to a lot of servers, breaking the Servers talk to Servers, a Client talks to the Server it's a client of, pattern.
Second, this change allows clients (in browsers) to circumvent blocking. If you block a server domain, you don't want the clients to fallback to getting the information directly from you.
So please, do not implement this change; and if you have this type of CORS header set, consider removing them.
Top-level toot: https://social.oberhauser.space/@obale/110058041568721745
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For readers the follow-up to the same toot is relevant as well. First reply is "Don't do this".
Fediverse
Announcing crate activitypub-federation 0.4.0: Major rewrite with improvements to usability and documentation
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Much appreciated, thank you very much. Esp. the attention to having good docs is a delight in the otherwise under-documented maze of fedi development.
Fediverse Futures
Federated Moderation: Towards Delegated Moderation?
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Though it is only indirectly related to Moderation, this StackExchange Q&A The Stack Exchange reputation system: What's working? What's not? has some nice feedback and ideas. It was tooted by Codinghorror, or Jeff Atwood the co-founder of Stackoverflow and Discourse forum software.
Open Source
Towards federated git collaboration
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With Gitea Ltd sudden incorporation, the soft fork of Gitea launched as Forgejo (which is what Codeberg now runs on) most of the forge federation efforts have shifted in that direction, as it offers the highest guarantees of remaining to the public benefit. Gitea has received a NLnet grant to add federation support, but it is unknown to what extent they are actively working towards implementing its goals. Those interested to learn more can join the Forge Federation general chatroom on Matrix.
humanetech
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Yes, I think people should skip to the "We have to keep going" section of the article to put the previous text in better context.
Fediverse Futures
What software is the fediverse missing?
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Ah, I mentioned I was approached re:Flarum in November `22. Haven't heard back since, incl. my recent DM to Daniël. For me Discourse federation is most valuable, as I am on N forums. For SocialHub we've been encouraging federation for a long time, so really happy this is getting started indeed.
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/746044 > With Fediverse going mainstream and corporate interests aplenty, it is very important to promote SocialHub and the FEP process, so that there's higher chance of keeping the fedi open and accessible to anyone. Anyone can help in this regard. > > https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep > > https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks
socialhub.activitypub.rocks
With Fediverse going mainstream and corporate interests aplenty, it is very important to promote SocialHub and the FEP process, so that there's higher chance of keeping the fedi open and accessible to anyone. Anyone can help in this regard. https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks
www.techdirt.com
What is your opinion on coming corporate entrance to the fedi?
git.pixie.town
From the README: Mastodon 4.x radically changed the frontend, to much dismay from the actual community. It's now a (slow) webapp, which requires access to lots of API routes that were previously unavailable to unauthenticated parties. It gives the public a much deeper view into your (private) community, both non-techincal (instance home pages now show an 'explore' page nobody asked for, that shows public content from instances you federate with. [you have to fully disable trending]), and on a technical level (toots and search API are publicly available allowing for much easier programmatic scraping).
techpolicy.press
Very interesting article tooted by author [Alek Tarkowski](https://social.coop/@tarkowski@101010.pl/109490312338495753)
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/639707 > The Fediverse going mainstream is ablaze with new developer activities. Many new projects are starting. I am co-maintaining 3 lists, part of the [delightful project](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful) (this is similar to Github Awesome lists, but only for FOSS, Open Data and Open Science, and without sponsored ads) and can need your help to keep the lists up-to-date. > > Find a new project or an entry that needs updating? Please PR to one of the following repositories: > > - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps > - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients > - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-activitypub-development > > The apps and ActivityPub resources from these lists will be hand-picked for inclusion in [Fediverse Party](https://fediverse.party) website. And the lists are auto-compiled into the [Delightful Club](https://delightful.club) website. > > If you want to become part of the Delightful Club and maintain a sub-list on a subject of your choice, then [file an issue](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful/issues) to the top-level ist.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/639707 > The Fediverse going mainstream is ablaze with new developer activities. Many new projects are starting. I am co-maintaining 3 lists, part of the [delightful project](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful) (this is similar to Github Awesome lists, but only for FOSS, Open Data and Open Science, and without sponsored ads) and can need your help to keep the lists up-to-date. > > Find a new project or an entry that needs updating? Please PR to one of the following repositories: > > - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps > - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients > - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-activitypub-development > > The apps and ActivityPub resources from these lists will be hand-picked for inclusion in [Fediverse Party](https://fediverse.party) website. And the lists are auto-compiled into the [Delightful Club](https://delightful.club) website. > > If you want to become part of the Delightful Club and maintain a sub-list on a subject of your choice, then [file an issue](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful/issues) to the top-level ist.
The Fediverse going mainstream is ablaze with new developer activities. Many new projects are starting. I am co-maintaining 3 lists, part of the [delightful project](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful) (this is similar to Github Awesome lists, but only for FOSS, Open Data and Open Science, and without sponsored ads) and can need your help to keep the lists up-to-date. Find a new project or an entry that needs updating? Please PR to one of the following repositories: - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-activitypub-development The apps and ActivityPub resources from these lists will be hand-picked for inclusion in [Fediverse Party](https://fediverse.party) website. And the lists are auto-compiled into the [Delightful Club](https://delightful.club) website. If you want to become part of the Delightful Club and maintain a sub-list on a subject of your choice, then [file an issue](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful/issues) to the top-level ist.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/588553 > [Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) is when influx from some other (often shittier and collapsing) platform overwhelms the unique culture that existed before, and in time fully replaces it. Destroying what existed before. > > 🧠 💭 **Figure out strategies & actions in comments below .. participate!** > > For example, I introduced 2 hashtags for awareness: > > - **#AvoidEternalSeptember** Raise attention to the culture clash. > - **#DonateToFediInstances** Help admins and moderators withstand the influx and give them your support. > > We want to be gentle, welcoming to newcomers. Show them around. But also keep having the nice chattering and culture we had before, and maybe give those some extra boosts to exemplify and spread the vibes. > > Here's [a poll](https://social.coop/@smallcircles/109306786291084911) to make newcomers aware that taking Twitter culture with you on the Fediverse is just weird. > > ### Fedizens... Be strategical in how you toot to help avoid that from happening
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/588553 > [Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) is when influx from some other (often shittier and collapsing) platform overwhelms the unique culture that existed before, and in time fully replaces it. Destroying what existed before. > > 🧠 💭 **Figure out strategies & actions in comments below .. participate!** > > For example, I introduced 2 hashtags for awareness: > > - **#AvoidEternalSeptember** Raise attention to the culture clash. > - **#DonateToFediInstances** Help admins and moderators withstand the influx and give them your support. > > We want to be gentle, welcoming to newcomers. Show them around. But also keep having the nice chattering and culture we had before, and maybe give those some extra boosts to exemplify and spread the vibes. > > Here's [a poll](https://social.coop/@smallcircles/109306786291084911) to make newcomers aware that taking Twitter culture with you on the Fediverse is just weird. > > ### Fedizens... Be strategical in how you toot to help avoid that from happening
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/588553 > [Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) is when influx from some other (often shittier and collapsing) platform overwhelms the unique culture that existed before, and in time fully replaces it. Destroying what existed before. > > 🧠 💭 **Figure out strategies & actions in comments below .. participate!** > > For example, I introduced 2 hashtags for awareness: > > - **#AvoidEternalSeptember** Raise attention to the culture clash. > - **#DonateToFediInstances** Help admins and moderators withstand the influx and give them your support. > > We want to be gentle, welcoming to newcomers. Show them around. But also keep having the nice chattering and culture we had before, and maybe give those some extra boosts to exemplify and spread the vibes. > > Here's [a poll](https://social.coop/@smallcircles/109306786291084911) to make newcomers aware that taking Twitter culture with you on the Fediverse is just weird. > > ### Fedizens... Be strategical in how you toot to help avoid that from happening
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/588553 > [Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) is when influx from some other (often shittier and collapsing) platform overwhelms the unique culture that existed before, and in time fully replaces it. Destroying what existed before. > > 🧠 💭 **Figure out strategies & actions in comments below .. participate!** > > For example, I introduced 2 hashtags for awareness: > > - **#AvoidEternalSeptember** Raise attention to the culture clash. > - **#DonateToFediInstances** Help admins and moderators withstand the influx and give them your support. > > We want to be gentle, welcoming to newcomers. Show them around. But also keep having the nice chattering and culture we had before, and maybe give those some extra boosts to exemplify and spread the vibes. > > Here's [a poll](https://social.coop/@smallcircles/109306786291084911) to make newcomers aware that taking Twitter culture with you on the Fediverse is just weird. > > ### Fedizens... Be strategical in how you toot to help avoid that from happening
[Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) is when influx from some other (often shittier and collapsing) platform overwhelms the unique culture that existed before, and in time fully replaces it. Destroying what existed before. 🧠 💭 **Figure out strategies & actions in comments below .. participate!** For example, I introduced 2 hashtags for awareness: - **#AvoidEternalSeptember** Raise attention to the culture clash. - **#DonateToFediInstances** Help admins and moderators withstand the influx and give them your support. We want to be gentle, welcoming to newcomers. Show them around. But also keep having the nice chattering and culture we had before, and maybe give those some extra boosts to exemplify and spread the vibes. Here's [a poll](https://social.coop/@smallcircles/109306786291084911) to make newcomers aware that taking Twitter culture with you on the Fediverse is just weird. ### Fedizens... Be strategical in how you toot to help avoid that from happening
The image shows a 'onebox' or OpenGraph link preview generated when dropping this link https://lemmy.ml/post/569631 into a Discourse forum post. It would be very nice if the preview included the name of the Community to which this was posted, i.e. [!fediversefutures@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/fediversefutures)
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/568420 > In reaction to the surprise [announcement](https://blog.gitea.io/2022/10/open-source-sustainment-and-the-future-of-gitea/) of the creation of Gitea Ltd and the transfer of domains and trademark to this company, worried members of the Community have written an Open Letter to the elected Owners of the project. > > The request is to return the assets and manage them by a community-led non-profit organization and furthermore improve the community organization, so that the Trust and Health of the project is restored. > > The Open Letter can be signed by sending a PR to the [Codeberg repository](https://codeberg.org/SocialCoding/gitea-open-letter).
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/568420 > In reaction to the surprise [announcement](https://blog.gitea.io/2022/10/open-source-sustainment-and-the-future-of-gitea/) of the creation of Gitea Ltd and the transfer of domains and trademark to this company, worried members of the Community have written an Open Letter to the elected Owners of the project. > > The request is to return the assets and manage them by a community-led non-profit organization and furthermore improve the community organization, so that the Trust and Health of the project is restored. > > The Open Letter can be signed by sending a PR to the [Codeberg repository](https://codeberg.org/SocialCoding/gitea-open-letter).
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/568420 > In reaction to the surprise [announcement](https://blog.gitea.io/2022/10/open-source-sustainment-and-the-future-of-gitea/) of the creation of Gitea Ltd and the transfer of domains and trademark to this company, worried members of the Community have written an Open Letter to the elected Owners of the project. > > The request is to return the assets and manage them by a community-led non-profit organization and furthermore improve the community organization, so that the Trust and Health of the project is restored. > > The Open Letter can be signed by sending a PR to the [Codeberg repository](https://codeberg.org/SocialCoding/gitea-open-letter).
In reaction to the surprise [announcement](https://blog.gitea.io/2022/10/open-source-sustainment-and-the-future-of-gitea/) of the creation of Gitea Ltd and the transfer of domains and trademark to this company, worried members of the Community have written an Open Letter to the elected Owners of the project. The request is to return the assets and manage them by a community-led non-profit organization and furthermore improve the community organization, so that the Trust and Health of the project is restored. The Open Letter can be signed by sending a PR to the [Codeberg repository](https://codeberg.org/SocialCoding/gitea-open-letter).
Since a little while all 'Save' actions hang on the spinner that keeps running. This while the save already happened. To see that I need to refresh the page. I had this with Create comment, Create cross-post, and soon I'll know if it happens with Create post too. Note that the refresh caused the cross-post not to be marked as such, and it looks like I duplicated a topic independently now.. [this post](https://lemmy.ml/post/539000) should be a cross-post of [this one](https://lemmy.ml/post/538538). Am using Firefox 105.0.3 on Ubuntu 22.04