Banned for crimes against humanity /jk

🙄 Have a nice day.

Reuters vs Aljazeera... I wonder which is the more believable news source, particularly with regards to Israel events.

edit: Without getting into the weeds Liberalism and Left/Right are usually considered separate spectrums and the definition varies wildly depending on where you're from.

Please read more carefully. I did not say "is now..." and the civilian casualty count is nowhere near 200k but rather closer to 40k.

Edit: But I also agree they are liberal too.

In the future, it's better to link to the original news article rather than a derivative citing it. Particularly when the derivative also needs translation.

The lemmy.world news mods are absolutely biased, break their own rules blatantly, and clearly support a left/far-left agenda.

That said, it's pretty unnecessary to hide genocide when the ICJ hasn't ruled one occurred yet.

All they do is increase taxes though. /s

The fate that awaits them after immersing fresh wounds in river water should be a deterrent for any of their comrades that come in contact with them in the next couple days.

Had he stated anything about what the SOF in Ukraine were doing I would agree with you. I believe the consensus is they are there training Ukraine troops.

It's technically not disinformation. Just a flawed conclusion. Politely pointing out alternative, more accurate, ways to look at it is the recommended method.

They aren't 'hostages'. They are prisoners of war.

Edit: They are required by international law to take POWs if they surrender properly, so yes they take POWs

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Before it was American and European trainers doing the training in European countries. Now it's the trainees becoming the trainers.

Won't need to imagine it. It will be real one day soon enough. Ukraine has the will and support for it.

TIL David Smith (the article author) is completely out of ideas and has decided to phone it in until the weekend.

Yup.

Heh, or just vote for his opponent whomever that may be :P

In Biden's defence he has Covid and that probably is really making him feel his age right about now.

Harris has already announced her candidacy. It will be difficult for anyone else to seriously challenge. Especially if/when Biden endorses her.

Nice try Nigerian Prince, but I'm not clicking your link.

Way to blame the victim there champ

yes

Thanks fren!

Get out of my head. I only watch late night talk shows on Youtube now just so I can skip past any Trump video. I hate that guy so much it makes my jaw hurt whenever I see his image.

Edit: I wish I could vote against him.

This totally unbiased message brought to you by someone that thinks people that execute the LGBTQI are "heroic".

Also, not a genocide. The Hamas' intended results of hiding behind civilian shields.

Hamas has never proposed releasing all the hostages. It's always some for reciprocation.

I would remind you that the JFK quote works both ways.

No Palestinians aren't 'the bunch'. All those that refuse to coexist peacefully with Israel the past 80 years are.

Who decides when we the statute of limitations is up on past transgressions of Israel?

Same people that decide that for the past transgressions of Terrorism Incorporated. Both sides need to stop, sit down and come to an agreement somehow. The only other way for peace is one Hamas sympathizers will NOT like.

As for 'the next wave of Hamas conscripts'. That is inevitable. 80 ish years ago Israel did nothing but come into existance due to a UN mandate and all the nations around them declared war. Nothing Israel can do or not do will prevent Hamas and the like from growing except ceasing to exist and that is the genocide Hamas et al sympathizers are actually supporting.

Doesn't justify terrorism or warcrimes.

Edit: I will sit down and commiserate with you on the shit show from both sides for the last 80 years, but those issues should have been dealt with in the past and are not a justification for the present.

Hey I wonder if Hamas could be considered 'a few bad apples'?

no no. You're the terrorist mouthpiece. I'm the one supporting a government just trying to protect its citizens from rampant murders/hostage takers.

Hamas suck

See, you're doing it again. No, Hamas doesn't just 'suck'. It's this false equivalence BS that has my ire. Hamas... are. literal. terrorists. and that is not in dispute by anyone worth listening to. Hamas as a strategy kill, rape, torture, and take hostage anyone they can get their evil fucking hands on. Israel wants to just exist but have been putting up with the afforementioned terrorism for 80 years. So they got a little Nietzschian. Israel is sick of it. I would be too if I was in their shoes.

That's the difference. They have a right to exist and I support that unequivocally. Are they perfect? Of course not. Would they be as hostile to Palestinians as they are had Terrorism Incorporated not made every minute of the last 80 years constant jeopardy? Um probably not. Is this a genocide? Not yet, but it could be if team Hamas doesn't smarten up and say 'hey now maybe peaceful solutions are a good idea'. Until then, Fuck Hamas and their putting civilians lives in jeopardy with their stubbornness.

If and when they surrender and release the hostages Israel continues this assault then yeah. They the baddies. Right now they are just getting their hands dirtier than you, sitting comfortably in your a/c sipping a latte somewhere else, would prefer protecting themselves.

and yet you (directly or indirectly) literally support known terrorists.

Ah, best you can do is a few reports where prosecution of those involved is inadequate, but at least existent. So it isn't policy of Israeli forces, just a few bad apples? Gotchya ;)

It's a pretty big stretch to call leaders of the Nazi party civilians. This argument is like saying Putin's cabinet aren't guilty of warcrimes because they aren't soldiers. If you're in a position to effect policy and/or give orders that result in warcrimes at the very least you do not fit into the category of civilian we're discussing.

You obviously don't live in Texas, or are at least in the unfortunate minority.

Fun fact: the IDF uses Palestinian civilians as human shields much more often than Hamas does. Does that make any violence against Israeli civilians acceptable? Of course not!

Non-biased citation (aljazeera and friends don't count) please.

Yes they do. This act falls under the purview of civilian enforcement. It is up to the controlling government to prosecute these civilian crimes in civilian criminal court.

EDIT: Okay, so this particular argument irked me so I investigated. Unfortunately, Ninja is technically correct. According to the ICRC civilians receive an instantaneous removal of their status as non-combatant for the duration of the hostile act, and the ICC's Rome Statutes clearly list using poison as a warcrime so it is probable the perpetrators could be prosecuted. More likely, however, is that their being subject to civilians laws means they can ALSO be prosecuted in the civilian manner. Double the risk for the reward.

That said. Russia wants to FAFO that's their problem.

No, Hamas has the power to stop. All they have to do is surrender and release the hostages. After that if Israel continues THEN it is a genocidal atrocity. Until then it is the intentional consequences of Hamas hiding behind children to protect themselves. The only reason Israel has the higher body count is Hamas uses mass civilian casualties to try and garner sympathy (and you're supporting that strategy). Not Israel's fault. Negotiating with terrorists is unethical.