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NH Pro season has already kicked off in France, but for the rest of Europe: it's this Friday. I've got tickets for Edinburgh v Leinster and cannot wait! Champions cup joins the URC on Premier Sports; hooray for me, as I was never going to pay for TNT and Premier Sports
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The only people that actually want this are the Welsh. The URC is working well, the prem needs to reign in the spending, and the Champions Cup needs to change to a format people understand. I'd go full knock out like a football cup personally. Sorted, no B&I league needed. But I do suspect NZ and Aus would like to see SA back in Super Rugby
**Table:** |Pos.|Team|P|W|B|PTS| |-|-|-|-|-|-| |1|Wellington|6|6|6|30| |2|Hawke's Bay|6|5|7|27| |3|Tasman|5|5|3|23| |4|BoP|6|4|6|22| |5|Taranaki|5|4|4|20| |6|Waikato|6|3|5|17| |7|Canterbury|6|3|3|15| |8|Otago|6|2|4|12| |9|Counties-Manukau|6|2|4|12| |10|North Harbour|5|1|7|11| |11|Southland|5|2|7|11| |12|Auckland|5|1|3|7| |13|Northland|6|1|3|7| |14|Manawatū|5|0|2|2| **Fixtures:** 13/09: - Southland v Canterbury 14/09: - BoP v Taranaki - North Harbour v Manawatū - Waikato v Hawke's Bay 15/09: - Counties-Manukau v Otago - Tasman v Wellington - Northland v Auckland 18/09: - Manawatū v Southland **Predictions:** Canterbury 9- BoP 5+ North Harbour 25+ Hawke's Bay 5- Otago 5- Wellington 3+ Auckland 9- Southland 5- **Notes:** Well, after the absolute tragedy that befell Hawke's Bay in their Shield defense against the Mako, i'm hoping Wellington will visit Nelson and at least ensure that Tasman only get to celebrate for a week. That should be a hell of a game with all of the squad ABs being released to play for their provinces and Wellington have been very good so far this season. Last weekend saw a lot of movement in the bottom half of the table - with lots of drama as well. See if you can find clip of wet-ball-gate from the Battle of the Bridge. Absolute dastardly shithousery robbed North Harbour. There's plenty of other good matches ahead this weekend too - BoP v Taranaki should settle who's in 4th place, and the mid-week home game for the Turbos could be their only chance of picking up a win this season. I'm glad the tests are over for this weekend, hopefully the rugby pundits down here will pay *some* attention to the NPC in their shows. But likely it'll get a passing mention while they spend 45 minutes talking up the Wobblies and then at the end of the season they'll have another moan about how nobody cares about the NPC.
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Dodson was bullish and unapologetic; Tom here talks of cash, but I'd prefer to see bridges being built and listening. It's no coincidence the amateur game is finding things tough, and the pathways aren't there. It's no surprise the money blackhole is there when the pro club sides are obvious money pits too. Funnily enough likely due to the pathways not being there so talent is bought in at bigger prices, this includes coaching staff which aren't helping with the community game either. Re: money. Squeezing the fan for more will quickly start to backfire, any investment in the matchday experience is unlikely to offset its cost in significant terms and amount to little more than a distraction imo. Redeveloping Murrayfield into a 100k stadium the only real possibility of significant earning potential, but what a cost that will bring. Instead costs must come down, and that's the wage bill. I've no idea what a player earns, but between Edinburgh and Glasgow it must be over 100 full time professionals each including sales & marketing, coaching, squad, rehab/medical, scouts, managers, and others I'm sure. Glasgow still leasing their ground annually too, I'll bet GCC ask a pretty penny. And Scotland staff must be phenomenal too. Alex here with a hard first couple of years
Can NZ get some revenge for last week? Will Australia show up and get their act together?
**Table:** |Pos.|Team|P|W|B|PTS| |-|-|-|-|-|-| |1|Hawke's Bay|5|5|5|25| |2|Wellington|4|4|4|20| |3|Tasman|4|4|3|19| |4|BoP|5|3|5|17| |5|Waikato|5|3|4|16| |6|Taranaki|4|3|3|15| |7|Southland|4|2|2|10| |8|Otago|4|2|2|10| |9|Canterbury|5|2|2|10| |10|North Harbour|4|1|5|9| |11|Northland|5|1|3|7| |12|Counties-Manukau|5|1|3|7| |13|Auckland|4|0|2|2| |14|Manawatū|4|0|2|2| **Fixtures:** Friday 06/09: BoP v Manawatū Saturday 07/09: Auckland v North Harbour Wellington v Southland Otago v Canterbury Hawke's Bay v Tasman (Ranfurly Shield) Sunday 08/09: Taranaki v Waikato Counties-Manukau v Northland Wednesday 11/09: Otago v Wellington **Notes:** The biggest game this round is the Ranfurly Shield match on Saturday night, Tasman have never one it as the combined union of Marlborough/Nelson Bays so they'll be up for it; and of course Hawke's Bay will be desperate to keep their winning record. Whoever wins gets both the log o' wood and top of the table. Other than that, there's a couple of other usually fierce derbies. The Battle of the Bridge on Satuurday, then Otago v Canterbury. Most of the rest of the matches aren't especially exciting. **My Predictions:** BoP 24+ North Harbour 9- Wellington 18+ Otago 3- Hawke's Bay 3- Taranaki 9+ Northland 9- Wellington 6+
Both games Saturday 31st South Africa vs New Zealand - 1700 SAST (UTC+2) - Johannesburg Argentina vs Australia - 1900 ART (UTC-2) - La Plata Predictions in the thread very welcomed
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**Table:** |Pos.|Team|P|W|B|PTS| |-|-|-|-|-|-| |1|Hawke's Bay|4|4|4|20| |2|BoP|4|3|5|17| |3|Wellington|3|3|3|15| |4|Tasman|3|3|2|14| |5|Taranaki|3|2|3|11| |6|Canterbury|4|2|2|10| |7|Otago|3|2|1|9| |8|North Harbour|3|1|3|7| |9|Waikato|3|1|2|6| |10|Southland|3|1|1|5| |11|Northland|3|1|1|5| |12|Auckland|3|0|2|2| |13|Counties-Manukau|4|0|2|2| |14|Manawatū|3|0|1|1| **Fixtures:** Friday 30/08: - Northland v Southland Saturday 31/08: - North Harbour v Counties-Manukau - Taranaki v Otago - Waikato v Auckland - Tasman v BoP Sunday 01/09: - Canterbury v Wellington - Manawatū v Hawke's Bay Wednesday 04/09: - Waikato v Northland **My Predictions:** - Northland 9+ - North Habour 18+ - Taranaki 6+ - Waikato 9+ - Tasman 6+ - Wellington 9- - Hawke's Bay 15+ - Northland 6- **1/3 of Round Robin Notes:** With Round 3/9 complete now (the fixtures list I refer to has the playoffs as Rounds 10-12 which is a bit random) I figured i'd entertain myself by doing a bit of a stock-take of where we are at. The defending champs Taranaki are progressing ok with their 1 loss so far coming away to one of the top 4 teams Wellington, are sitting ok, but the draw is a little unkind to them in that their easier games are mostly at home but they still have to play BoP, Tasman & Hawke's Bay on the road. The comp progresses through quarter-finals, semis to the final so they'll make the playoffs but will need to work hard to get the home advantage they had last year. The beaten finalists Hawke's Bay are looking quite good especially this week picking up a win away in Canterbury during the storm week. Time will tell though as its all tough games from now, even this Sunday's match against cellar dwellers Manawatū could be banana peel being the 3rd match in 9 days. Probably the biggest surprise so far is how average Waikato, and how poor Auckland have been. You know you're having a bad season when Southland are ahead of you on the table. The current top 5 look likely to make the playoffs, of the rest Canterbury will surely make it in though are battling a lot of injuries. The table feels a bit similar to Super Rugby this year. The top 4-5 are clear but places 6-12 are still probably anyone's to take and really only Manawatū & Counties-Manukau are looking completely out of the running. Crowd wise - its the usual story. The over-saturated Super Rugby markets that struggled to get people to turn up unless it was a big game struggle to get people to show to the NPC. But the provinces that get one or no Super Rugby matches are having pretty good crowds in attendance from what i've seen so far.
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This is my editorialising, but I struggle to see how its not yet more Crusaders bias selecting Bower over Numia. I get that the latter is uncapped and coming off an injury but Numia was probably *the* form prop in Super Rugby this year and is going to be 3rd choice prop, not playing in either game unless there's an injury anyway. Bower's only come back from even more serious injury this year and while he's had some tests under his belt i'd say there's just as many question marks over his international game with answers as unanswered questions about Numia.
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Mmm, drama in camp before the boks match. TRC R3 to be juicy
**Table:** |Pos.|Team|P|W|B|PTS| |-|-|-|-|-|-| |1|BoP|3|3|3|15| |2|Hawke's Bay|2|2|2|10| |3|Wellington|2|2|2|10| |4|Tasman|2|2|1|9| |5|Taranaki|2|1|2|6| |6|Northland|2|1|1|5| |7|Canterbury|2|1|1|5| |8|Waikato|2|1|1|5| |9|Southland|2|1|0|4| |10|Otago|2|1|0|4| |11|North Harbour|2|0|2|2| |12|Counties-Manukau|3|0|2|2| |13|Auckland|2|0|1|1| |14|Manawatū|2|0|0|0| **Fixtures:** Friday 23/08: - Hawke's Bay v Northland *(Ranfurly Shield Challenge)* Saturday 24/08: - Counties-Manukau v Tasman - Auckland v Canterbury - Southland v Taranaki Sunday 25/08: - Otago v BoP - Wellington v Manawatū - North Harbour v Waikato Wednesday 28/08: - Canterbury v Hawke's Bay **My Predictions:** - Hawkes-Bay 6+ *(I'm on call this week so won't be at McLean Park :( )* - Tasman 18+ - Auckland 6- - Taranaki 6+ - BoP 6+ - Wellington 27+ - North Harbour 6+ - Canterbury 10-
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Lions hype begins! The currently longest serving fly-halves in the Lions nations pairing up? Who doesn't want to see that?
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Also, an expansion to 24 teams. 6 pools of 4, top 2 go forward automatically, next 4 highest winners, with a knock out of 16 to look forward to too
- Australia v South Africa in Perth - New Zealand v Argentina in Auckland
**Table:** |Pos.|Team|P|W|B|PTS| |-|-|-|-|-|-| |1|BoP|2|2|2|10| |2|Tasman|1|1|1|5| |3|Taranaki|1|1|1|5| |4|Canterbury|1|1|1|5| |5|Hawke's Bay|1|1|1|5| |6|Wellington|1|1|1|5| |7|Southland|1|1|0|4| |8|North Harbour|1|0|1|1| |9|Counties-Manukau|2|0|1|1| |10|Auckland|1|0|0|0| |11|Otago|1|0|0|0| |12|Northland|1|0|0|0| |13|Waikato|1|0|0|0| |14|Manawatū|1|0|0|0| **Fixtures:** Friday 16/08: - Otago v Auckland Saturday 17/08: - Northland v Manawatū - Tasman v Canterbury - Hawke's Bay v Southland *(Ranfurly Shield Challenge)* Sunday 18/08: - BoP v North Harbour - Wellington v Taranaki - Counties-Manukau v Waikato **My Predictions:** - Auckland 13+ - Northland 21+ - Tasman 6- - Hawkes-Bay 6+ *(Hoping to make it to McLean Park for this one)* - BoP 13+ - Taranaki 6- - Waikato 13-
Seeing as I care more about the NPC than any other Rugby I feel like I ought to start a thread for this too, even though i'm the only person here that probably has any interest :) Round 1 Fixtures: - Taranaki v Counties-Manukau - Auckland v Wellington - Canterbury v Northland - Southland v Otago - Waikato v Bay of Plenty - North Harbour v Hawkes Bay - Manawatū v Tasman - Bay of Plenty v Counties-Manukau* *Due to the compressed nature of the competition every team has what's called a storm week where they end up playing 3 times in about 10 days which is why this match is marked as the 2nd game in round 1 for these two teams
- Australia v South Africa in Brisbane - New Zealand v Argentina in Wellington
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But not Allianz Twickenham. Just another Allianz stadium. I hope they got a big paycheck for that
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This could have major repercussions for the game as we know it. The RFU has already reduced the amount of contact allowed in the grassroots of the game. Will the product we all love survive a legal tsunami if this ends in a court ruling? I always wonder if you could get players to sign away their rights to sue but I'm pretty certain that would not be legally enforceable, alongside being totally exploitative.
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Forgetting that Scotland were playing yesterday due to the Olympics but 4 from 4 in their Americas tour will beg the question "why not Argentina?" once again. With NZ choosing to play the softer touch England and Wales in November, is everyone running scared from the mighty Scots? Well done to the team anyhow, and fantastic to see dooey with the try record
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Mens medals today! Kicking off 1:30 BST, with the semis at 2:30 & 3:00 boks v the french, and fijians vs ozzies. Ceremony bit of a miss last night imo, but I was drinking. Quarters was amazing Thursday night, hopefully a fantastic spectacle again today
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Bit niche I thought when I saw this. So of course I have to share it with a niche community :)
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Day 2 of the mens competition and what a great showcase yesterday was. Loads of offloads, skip passes, individual skills, and team wonder tries on show and a fantastic crowd. Personally a game every 30 minutes is too bloody slow to watch live, and the highlights were slow, but good for du biere if you were in the stadium I'm sure. Actually last time I was in SdF I couldn't buy a beer... Sarkozy! Anyway, today we venture into knock out territory, so enjoy folks!
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Mens Sevens in the Stade de France from 2:30pm BST today. I have to confess as to not have watched much sevens since Scotland dumped their national team, but France rested DuPont over the 6n for today. In the UK, only highlights and limited live on the beeb again this Olympics, but eurosport is pretty cheap for a whole month for those that would like to see 6 days of uniterrupted Sevens, and a whole host of other sporting goods
EASTERN New England vs DC https://youtu.be/x796E28Kx7Q NOLA vs Chicago https://youtu.be/N6WXjicQE6E WESTERN Houston vs Dallas https://youtu.be/d4IwXIkUdm4 Seattle vs San Diego https://youtu.be/xyD_RjVEuCs
Massive news for Moana Pasifika, probably the biggest signing announcement in the entire history of Super Rugby. No idea how they can afford him, but I've seen some people suggest they picked up some new finance from somewhere. It'll be interesting to see where he plays, possibly at 7 given Inisi had such a huge season at 8 for them this year.
Times in BST. Sorry SH. Wales already won by a point, so probably best match already done. Anyone want to predict score lines for the rest? Think I'll watch the Chile on iplayer later, not feeling the need to watch that one live
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My analysis: about bloody time. This should have been a wake up call years ago. The big worry: most these players had extensive super6 time. Will 'A' fixtures and academy matches yield something equivalent?
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Things I'd love to see!
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France to the rescue, fingers crossed he kicks on and makes a full Scotland cap. But what is really interesting (to me) is the use of facebook to get a job, not LinkedIn or an agent, and certainly not the SRU which have invested in him, and should have been able to offer a USA slot, but no super6 any more either. Anyway, I hope he enjoys D2
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Wow, some big accusations here. Some French players in 2018 had something similar in Edinburgh.
Decided to tweak it from Summer Internationals bc its been freezing & frosty down here in my part of New Zealand! - Tonga vs Italy - Samoa vs Spain - USA vs Scotland - Canada vs Romania - New Zealand vs England - Australia vs Wales - Japan vs Georgia - Namibia vs Portugal - South Africa vs Ireland - Argentina vs France
A feast of rugby tomorrow, anyone attending? Predictions welcomed, reviews also appreciate
Anyone want to have a stab at a banner for us? 2023 makes us look a touch stale
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Consultation in the UK is a euphamism for a foregone conclusion btw. This must be Dodson's last act before he goes. It's also in the press release that pints and food are about to go up again too, in more words. And given a 3million black hole last year - it looks necessary. The SRU are investing heavily in both pro teams, and it's paid off at one end of the M8. This should result in more season tickets for Glasgow next year, and there is a fourth home game in the november series. And the Super6 is gone, so another cost reduced. And surely a big boost with Taylor Swift at Murrayfield too. Personally I'd have stuck with a hiring freeze for a couple of years, and been a bit ruthless with some performance reviews rather than redundancies. That isn't a good look ever, and smacks of incompetence with hiring and strategy
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Hooray! Maybe we'll see actual national sevens return now that GB Sevens has been exposed as a crap idea
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Mmm, salt is my favourite flavour
Semi finals, finals, international friendlies, England playing in Japan, Wales playing 'home' in Twickenham. A Barbarians match, we've got it all today folks! Predictions in the thread before. Reactions after appreciated also
Woah, a potential sell out will not be easy for Glasgow to overcome. Fingers crossed! C'mon Glasgow!