Dear America, Please stop trying to shoot Donald Trump. He's got like 100 years of prison coming up in 2025. If you shoot him you make him a martyr and deny us the long crushing process of justice.

It's Trump. Here is another angle https://news.sky.com/story/laura-loomer-the-far-right-conspiracy-theorist-seen-with-donald-trump-13214428

It seems the lighting was bad in that room and the media were a bit far back, because most of the shots I see online are low quality and zoomed in.

Entire debate (video) and transcript on the ABC website https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-trump-presidential-debate-transcript/story?id=113560542

Trump is such a clown that when he speaks the internet is left talking about how he sounds like an angry idiot toddler. But he ends up getting a pass on his asinine policies because we are too busy talking about the insane stuff like "eating dogs" and him choosing to be Putin's removed.

Let's not forget that his vision for "the economy" is also BS. His policy ideas are all bankrupt. The health care plan is not coming in 2 weeks. His administration inflicted on America's budget the most insane deficit and debt of any single presidential term: https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

His ideas on tariffs are insane and debunked by serious economists. The whole thing is bananas. His plan for tariffs would hurt American workers. And in typical GOP fashion, the pain hits harder on the working class.

For anyone that wants to read a real economics analysis, here is a detailed study from the Peterson Institute for International Economics,

Why Trump’s Tariff Proposals Would Harm Working Americans

https://lowellmilkeninstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Peterson-Institute-for-International-Economics-Why-Trumps-Tariff-Proposals-Would-Harm-Working-Americans.pdf

BTW, PBS Newshour just reported on their daily broadcast

"As the campaign enters the final 2 months sprint, voting can officially begin as the first absentee ballots hit mailboxes in North Carolina today"

4:25 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP7nusNiIKM

Are you the mod here messing with my account? because I want to file a formal complaint with whatever the systems are on this platform. It's one thing to correct people or ask for clarification or edits, it's another to start nuking people's posts and comments without asking and making stuff just disappear.

Why was my comment deleted? WTF

The schedule for N.C. was to begin sending out mail ballots this Friday. I learned this fact from listening to NPR and made the meme planning for this day. Today apparently there is some temporary delay due to some RFK.jr nonsense, but N.C. is going to continue with the election, it's not like RFK.jr can stop us from voting.

You are taking some pedantic position to call my post "misinformation". There is little being added by your comments. While my comments and posts are getting deleted without regard, and I'm still waiting for an apology for mods deleting my last post and messing with my comments here.

WTF is up with the moderation in this place. Let's see how long it takes for this comment to get deleted too.

BTW, I heard your comments before about AI, so this time I went out with my camera and waited by the mail box until a proud patriot eagle showed up to cast its vote. The flag in the background is photoshopped.

You guys know that I like to play with AI, so I asked AI what to make of this news channel. The AI told me to delete this meme because it has to be fake because no news channel would ever have aired that chyron nor have said such a ridiculous statement on prime time television.

Guys, this is real. September 4, 2024. The bottom right image was added for relating to the topic.

I wanted to say that although I think the mods closed the Gaza thread, I am thankful that people joined in to have these serious conversations. Because no matter what your perspective is, I read every comment and I feel that everyone that commented there cares about trying to find solutions and figuring out how to do the right thing even when it's hard.

For democracy to work we have to talk to each other, even when it's uncomfortable. Thank you for caring and doing your part. I don't know how to fix all our problems, but I do know that we have this democracy to let us decide together. And the more we talk the closer we can get to real answers somehow. Have a great day.

Sources:

Trump https://www.vox.com/politics/353037/trump-gaza-israel-protests-biden-election-2024

Harris https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/gaza-israel-harris-convention-speech/index.html

Details https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/29/army-says-arlington-national-cemetery-employee-being-unfairly-attacked-trump-campaign.html

Sauce https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/13/back-future-trumps-history-promising-health-plan-n/

For the fact checkers https://www.bbc.com/news/61333847

According to the WHO, in 2020 and 2021 the US recorded more than 930,000 excess deaths, behind India (4.7m), Russia (1.1m) and Indonesia (1m).

This was a thing in 2011 because when he was birth-ering Obama people asked about Trump's certificate, and he produced a piece of paper that turned out to be unofficial. A bunch of news articles from back then are down now even though most news websites go back decades usually. "Someone should investigate"

https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry

Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue.

I don't understand. How do they delete progressives and brown people from the voter register right before the election if there is no voter register? Do you just let any citizen vote without disenfranchising large segments of the population?

Next you are going to tell me you don't even use an electoral college to prevent the winner of the election from becoming president.

You foam at the mouth about how my numbers are wrong, and then you post a link that validates the numbers and even suggests they are higher:

The annual salary for farm hands in 2024 range from $45,862 to $81,812, according to Indeed. The average salary is $61,254

Perhaps you need to slow down a bit to understand averages. Some people make less than $61k, some people make more than $61k, and for the average to work that means that for some that makes less there's got to be others that make more. According to Indeed, that range is between $46k and $82k for FARM HANDS. Not part owners or some other capitalist arrangement, farm hands according to the stats.

By your own admission, there are a good deal of farm workers out there earning a salary of $82k /year, which BTW is higher than lots of people with master's degrees in the city.

Since you are not contributing anything to the conversation, there's no point in me replying further.

you pulled that $25/hr out of your ass

I guess there's no point in discussing any further if providing sources and real numbers is not enough for you. Have a nice day, comrade.

It seems we have different parameters for what is better. You seem focused on who technically owns the land regardless of what value can be had, while I'm focused on quality of life and how much of the value is enjoyed by the worker. The average salary of farmer employees in today's America is in line with the average incomes for all households including college educated professionals. https://www.salary.com/research/salary/recruiting/farmer-salary

In the US, the average farmer salary is $47,390. The average farmer yearly salary in Russia is 31k /m rub or $4k USD /yr.

I know one of our US national pastimes is complaining about everything online, but if I had to be farmer, I know where in the world I'd rather apply for a job. And yes, that job would probably be at a mega corp, and that's fine to me as long as I'm getting paid $47k this year with benefits and a 401k, instead of $4k with no benefits and no rights as a person.

That was about money, but I also honestly don't understand the argument about "owning the farm". For instance, there are tens of thousand of US employees working at Google making $200k+ /year. They don't own Google, and I know they are fine with that arrangement. I haven't seen one of them lament that the Alphabet corporation owns the land where their office building is located. They are all going to retire millionaires without ever owning "the means of production" or having eating a single oligarch.

In fact, our US farmer friend in the picture making $25 /hr is likely stashing away $5k+/ year in her 401k plan. The lady in the picture is slightly on the upper end of farmer income, and she will retire a millionaire too, having never owned the land.

The guy from the 1800s picture did not retire a millionaire, in case it needs to be said. He never retired, he likely never had $1000 in his bank account, which is also true for a Russian farmer today.

It's clear that everyone on the progressive side of the political spectrum hates Trump. But even on the conservative side, people in leadership also hate Trump. When it comes to presidents and VPs, Bush has stopped short of talking about Trump but he has spoken against the MAGA movement, and the Cheneys hate Trump. Mike Pence was almost killed by Trump's coup attempt and he spoke against him too. The previous GOP candidates for president were Romney and McCain, and they both hate(d) Trump with a passion.

I think it's at least telling by looking at the presidential tickets that everyone in leadership in the United States of America hates Trump, even within his own party. Anyone at the top level with proven experience on how to run this country, on both sides, hates Trump.

Maybe the MAGAs have no ability to stop and ponder on this. But the independents considering their choices for Nov might. And any conservative that cares about running the country right might consider their choices too. Perhaps not every registered Republican has the stomach to keep putting party over country, and even more so now that the Republican party has been debased to just being for the Trump cabal and circus.

He clarified that he does love his wife, despite her not being white.

It's amazing how he finds ways to create a bigger hole for himself out of softball questions raised by friendly media outlets. Imagine the stuff he would say if he sat for interviews with real journalists trying to press him on the wacko stuff he's said and his unpopular policy positions as a candidate.

That's a better angle. It really shows the 400 million joyful attendees. Yuge political movement.

News reports confirm the images

"If I'm being generous, that looks like 10 rows of 10 seats across on each side," reported a tech correspondent Chris O'Brien. "So about a total of 200 people potentially?"