Okay, let me explain something to your dumb hypocritical ass before you make a fool out of yourself any further:

You're clearly the only one being an asshole and a bully here.

You're the one being the -- how did you put it? "authoritarian we should try to avoid", and you're the one being a worthless hypocrite on top of it.

This is me talking to you via an alt account, an account I have because most people on Lemmy have at least 2 or 3 by virtue of federation.

You did nothing but take a cheap shot at some innocent dumb fuck who stuck their oar in because you wanted to hurt me and my feelings. And judging from the rest of your account activity, you very blatantly do the exact same thing you accuse me of doing, all the time, non-stop. And you have zero self-awareness at all.

So why would you even come here all offended at me in the first place, unless you yourself were just @FlyingSquid's dumbass alt? I guess we're all alts here, moron.

It's okay though. You're acting just like me and I'm here for it. 👏

Truth. Facts.

🎼 'Cause I'm proud to be an American 🎵🎶🇺🇲🦅

I meant Lemmygrad, but the admin came to the thread and said "fuck you, I want to boost my numbers up, the tankies are staying" so it doesn't actually matter. 🤷

We ought to fork Lemmy and include features it's badly missing, like the ability for users to block whole instances, and to better enable admins to block brigadeers and spammers who make alts.

They don't get that what repulses people is them, because other people know what they're peddling is a pack of obvious lies.

Like, who the fuck honestly thinks the Tianamen Square massacre didn't happen? We have pictures EVERYWHERE. Motherfuckers in China who saw it or had relatives killed are still alive.

Next they're gonna argue the fucking Holodomors weren't real or not actually genocides.

🤦🤦🤦 I tripped and fell down a rabbit hole of abject scumfuckery the past 24 hours. Someone help me up.

Also hi, I'm the one who found that thread and removeded up a storm about it on lemm.ee yesterday, how's it going? Glad for the invite. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed it, either

🤔 How about redfash? Associate them with something they hate and is universally hated?

Tanktards also works. Exploit their weird hypocrisy with name-calling.

Probably best to not try to scrape the bottom of the barrel when defending authoritarians pushing lies and propaganda. Like, if you're going to go for a red herring, you could at least tone police me; that would at least be more plausible and less petty. Step your game up

🤦 Wasted my time and effort on a garbage instance again.

I actually haven't really debated them and this isn't the first time I've seen them invade an instance. I want them gone because they are spreading blatant propaganda and that should not be allowed on any instance worth its salt

Point in fact, I came here to lemm.ee specifically because it was defederated from them, but now I see the past few days that they've been let on again and are now invading threads with pro-CCP astroturfing and inundating the All feed with their propaganda and garbage like they always do. And that shouldn't be allowed.

How do you foresee tankies poisoning the whole fediverse?

Because I've been watching what has been going on. Instances, big ones, that were previously hard-nosed about being defederated from them have mysteriously let them on their instances again, including this one. I signed up for this instance specifically BECAUSE it banned them, and then all of a sudden, for the past few days, my All feed is inundated with their crap.

That is shady, sus, and wrong. A lot of people came here specifically to get away from tankies and their garbage, and now we're expected to put up with it because the admins refuse to act and even let them back on? Explain to me how money, blackmail, intimidation, manipulation or abject removedation isn't involved in that?

Or how it won't happen to other instances once those cretins get a foothold in a big enough percentage of the fediverse?

It doesn’t even seem like they are trying to make a case, they are just bluntly stating misinformation. If we are going to remove all misinformation then we are going to need paid admins because even at the current scale its a full time job.

The admin already accepts donations so he has no excuse.

I see blatant misinformation everywhere on the fediverse already and only a tiny percentage is tankie related.

You can thank the alt-right dipshits at .world for that, and that's why I speak out now: unless admins' feet are held to the fire and they're held accountable for not protecting their users, it'll keep getting worse. The admins made an instance they want us to use and accept donations to keep it running. Therefore they have a responsibility toward us they're not meeting, and it results in dangerous shit like propaganda claiming the Tianamen Square massacre did not happen to run freely when it should not. That is crazy and you know it

bad economic policies

Who cares about China anyway?

Yea the person claiming Biden has bad economic policies wants to ignore the second largest economy in the world… 😂

Well lookie motherfucking loo here boys, the proof is in the pudding.

You all are really butthurt that no one else wants you around that you gang up on anyone who complains, resorting to cheap personal attacks and tone policing, thinking you're going to pretend to be an onlooker when in reality you're just some dipshit tankie acting in bad faith hoping to astroturf.

THIS is why you scumbags don't belong here. THIS is why the admins need to take responsibility and defederate from your asses, so we can have meaningful conversations in good faith without them being inundated by your ilk so you can feel like you're in control of something.

Tankies DO NOT belong here and they need to be defederated from this instance before they do worse.

I am asking the admins to defederate from them but good job not even reading the thread and showing your priorities are all out of whack.

Tankies claiming the Tianamen Square massacre didn't happen are pretty toxic

I shouldn't have to as that costs money. It's the admin's job to fix his server, not mine.

If he's a tankie or a supporter of them, he has a responsibility to us to be honest about that fact instead of allowing them to run roughshod and inundate the instance with propaganda. He KNOWS they don't belong here but he's ignoring the problem. That means he either is one of them, supports them or is being taken in by them. And that's a serious problem that will affect the whole federation, not just this one instance.

If tankies get away with doing that here, they'll do it to other admins, and poison the whole federation. It'll be impossible for new instances to flourish without kowtowing to them, and so it has to be stopped here and now with the bigger instances.

Nah fam, I personally want tankies here and I don't care if they spread propaganda, astroturf and gang up on anyone they don't like and generally cause trouble and you complaining makes me feel afraid they'll be defederated again, go away and stop threatening my friends' attempts to control popular instances

-You

And here's a .worlder all butthurt because he remembers the time I called out his shitty instance on doing the exact same thing, and as history repeats itself, he feels embarrassed

Do you feel like you should have to go through the gargantuan effort of blocking every single tankie sub on every single server you go to? Or do you think you can garner the stones to get at least one admin somewhere to do his damn job?

Is that asking too much? Or would you rather hide behind me to justify defending scumbags literally spreading propaganda claiming the Tianamen Square massacre didn't happen because you don't like me and want to play tone police to express it?

Because if me being angry about this is more of a serious problem to you than that, then there's a good reason why we label .worlders as alt-right dipshits and don't listen to you.

Apparently yes, because you're here defending them in a meta thread for my instance written specifically to address this issue, an instance you're not even a part of, so what reasonable conclusion can we make except you're here to defend them and keep them around when you know instance natives do not want them?

See, this shit is why the tankies need to leave. They're astroturfing and getting their buddies/alt accounts to stick up for them and this is like the third that has cropped up in the thread so far. How can meaningful engagement happen if they are going to be allowed to just gang up on anyone who complains or disagrees with them? That's not a fun instance and the admins of lemm.ee have no business allowing it.

That's the reason why I made this thread. They need to go, yesterday.

Nope, sounds like you need to go sign up for a tankie instance and leave the rest of us decent people alone instead of invading every space and expecting others to be okay with it.

And this is how we know you're here in bad faith. Go sign up for Lemmygrad if you love them so damn much

No, the point of Lemmy is to replace Reddit, and if we're just going to get enabling admins who likely are tankies or being unduly influenced by tankies, then it is pointless.

I will NOT go away or be silenced. You will NOT demand I just put up with it or do the admins' job for them. It's their job to protect us from bad faith scumbags looking to fulfill a stupid political agenda and brainwash people.

Insinuating anyone who complains about abuse is the problem for complaining, not the abusive behavior is a tactic bad-faith actors always use to silence legitimate dissent. Are you here in bad faith? Because by doing it you sure sound like it

Lol tankie says what?

EDIT: Never mind, this guy is masquerading as a neutral party to defend tankies, just ignore him.

Oh no, there is, because it's their responsibility as admins and third party apps are not an excuse for them to shirk their responsibility toward their users.

Needing a third party app for that kind of basic functionality defeats the point of Lemmy anyway.

The Chinese government suckering you to do your PR work for them, them too

What about the Lemmygrad removed trying to claim Tianamen Square didn't happen? How the hell is that reasonable or okay?

This is what tankies actually believe

Username checks out

You can literally just go to .world and read some of the comments in the biggest subs, and see for yourself

You all need to hit up Best Buy then, because you can buy a $200- $300 unlocked phone from which you can, in fact, pop out the battery.

Please for the love of god, tell me you idiots weren't signing on to contracts and indebting yourselves to phone companies just to get access to shitty, locked, censored and controlled iPhones or Galaxies.

Edit: I count 8 idiots. Holy crap, how did you let yourself get schnookered?

Wait. You people can't remove the batteries from your phone? 🤨 My phone is only 2 years old and I can take off the back and remove mine whenever I want. The fuck kind of shit companies are you buying from?

They are. Those clowns would personally bend over and let Daddy Stalin blow out their assholes if he were still alive. Block them whenever you see them, don't bother engaging with their ilk

How is that even possible?

Animals are a lot less numerous and a lot easier to deal with than humans in society. A lot of people would genuinely be better off back in nature and out of society.

They're too busy fellating each other after manipulating/bribing more Lemmy instance admins to federate with them

"Churned customers?"