Why are posts that expressing support and wish towards Monero's proliferating adoption getting some downvote-bombings in here? Examples: - https://monero.town/post/4160760 : "let's promote monero"; -10 karma - https://monero.town/post/4041778 : "let's promote monero"; -9 karma or this one: - https://monero.town/post/4174276 Just started the skepticism thread, and there is an instant -1 downvote on that. wtf is this? Are we getting brigaded by grudgeful bitfags? Is it the overly-sensitive leftist fediverse dwellers that can't stand the words like "shock-troops" or "the final solution"? What the hell.
### Stay on topic: - This thread is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Monero. - NOT the positive aspects of it. - Discussion can relate to the technology itself or its economics. - Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well. - Be as respectful and nice as possible. This discussion has potential to be more emotionally charged as it may bring up issues that are extremely upsetting: many people are not only financially but emotionally invested in the ideas and tools around Monero. --- ### How it works: - Post your concerns about Monero in reply to this thread. - If you can address these concerns, or add further details to them – reply to that comment. This will make it easily sort-able. - Upvote the comments that are the most valid criticisms of it that have few or no real honest solutions/answers to them. - The comment that mentions the biggest problems of Monero should have the most karma. --- ### Previous: - https://monero.town/post/4099329 --- > The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool. - [Richard Feynman](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman)
### Stay on topic: - This thread is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Monero. - NOT the positive aspects of it. - Discussion can relate to the technology itself or its economics. - Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well. - Be as respectful and nice as possible. This discussion has potential to be more emotionally charged as it may bring up issues that are extremely upsetting: many people are not only financially but emotionally invested in the ideas and tools around Monero. --- ### How it works: - Post your concerns about Monero in reply to this thread. - If you can address these concerns, or add further details to them – reply to that comment. This will make it easily sort-able. - Upvote the comments that are the most valid criticisms of it that have few or no real honest solutions/answers to them. - The comment that mentions the biggest problems of Monero should have the most karma. --- ### Previous: - [https://monero.town/post/3962553](https://monero.town/post/4032114) --- > The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool. - [Richard Feynman](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman)
It has lots of useful listings, and then it also has this one: https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/P2qu/ 😂Rofl, make monero fun to use again!
k4r4b3y 4 weeks ago • 100%
Their cop-out is saying, "TailsOS only includes packages from debian repos." So, I am guessing, before feather gets into TailsOS, it would need to be in debian stable. Can we get a debian maintainer for Feather?
k4r4b3y 4 weeks ago • 100%
Is there something we can do about getting Feather Wallet by default into TailsOS?
k4r4b3y 4 weeks ago • 100%
k4r4b3y 4 weeks ago • 100%
Feather's the best desktop wallet.
We're excited to share that a pull request has been made for the Full-Chain Membership Proofs (FCMP++) integration into Monero! The pull request is a work-in-progress and will be improved upon and reviewed to ensure soundness of the implementation. https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/9436
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
Done 👍
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
The entire reason for these being manageable without sudo permission, as a regular unprivileged user is that they don't modify the system, but only the installation in your home directory.
Yes, and therefore AppImages are great for use in TailsOS and Qubes-Whonix.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 66%
Yes I indeed ignored everything that came after when you referred to Monero as a scam.
Do you even know what XMR is, or are you a drive-by commenter?
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 44%
Do you not understand allegory? Are you a literalist who cannot grasp nuance in internet banter?
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 81%
force
Nah. I said nudge.
crypto scam
Nah.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
Bounty increased to 2 XMR.
I bumped into two projects that do not yet use Monero for dono/payments yet. 1. https://riseup.net/vpn#donate 2. https://freenet.org/ghostkey/create/ The first one of them is a cool VPN that you can install and use right away inside debian: `sudo apt install riseup-vpn -y` The second one is the new freenet project that aims to build distributed and uncensorable network. Both of these projects SHOULD have been using Monero for donos/payments, ALREADY. I think it is high time the Monero community shock troops go out there and apply nudging in these projects' community pages. Example: https://github.com/freenet/freenet-core/discussions/1189#discussioncomment-10382094
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
Do you follow the -dev and no-wallet-left-behind irc/matrix room discussions? Kayabanerve posts some good updates on the work being done. Last time I checked was that they were getting math proofs for the FCMP.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
specify the network to connect to from the official build
That would very useful.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
people have success
Which people? Probably technically-minded, and over-determined people, yes. But do we want only such people have access to Haveno? Absolutely not. People who are only able to burn TailsOS onto a USB should also be able to hop-onto using Haveno and contribute to Monero"s distributed liquidity.
you literally can
No I literally cannot! (maybe). AppImage model of running a program is exactly the same as running an exe file. Download, allow executable, and run. Most newcomers easily get disheartened when they read that they need to unzip a deb file or something.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
AppImage is absolutely necessary for users of TailsOS and Qubes-Whonix.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
Transact with it. Don’t hoard it
I do hoard it tho.
**tor:** http://karaparawplotu233ux7adtiaqswdthdk6kiqqovgy4ldp2dseijwnad.onion/wiki/feather-wallet/feather_wallet_isolated_qubes_whonix_setup_en/ **i2p:** http://karapar4coqucwkyuq5qi65w2traxh7jl23y6otfpeegmkzugula.b32.i2p/wiki/feather-wallet/feather_wallet_isolated_qubes_whonix_setup_en/ --- I show you how to isolate your feather wallet in an offline qube. Then, use your own monero node that runs in another qube via TCP port forwarding between the local qubes in QubesOS.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
Full membership proofs will solve the issues, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. It can't arrive soon enough (provided that the maths and the code implementation are sound and secure, of course).
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
tails to keep electrum pre installed only by default.
I still can't comprehend the TailsOS developers for this decision. They are going all the way about hiding the trails of internet packages that are sent/received to the Tails operating system. But they are literally operating on the "clearnet" when it comes to the trails of internet money bits.
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
I think the rift between haveno devs and the haveno-reto devs is causing some project management issues. One such example that I get direct exposure is around adding a flatpak and AppImage packaging for Haveno(-Reto) and another is around how (or should?) should the users be able to switch between mainnet providers.
For the example of the first one read down from this message: https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/issues/270#issuecomment-2294807880
And for the example of the second one, read down this issue: https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/issues/931
There is a friction in trying to coordinate and contribute to the developers working on different (albeit quite similar) repos (in the case of the original Haveno repo and the -Reto repo). This friction in comms and contribution is causing delays in introducing software distribution packages such as AppImage and Flatpaks, which hinders (especially for TailsOS and Qubes-Whonix users) the onboarding of the new users, and decentralizing Monero's liquidity.
### Stay on topic: - This thread is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Monero. - NOT the positive aspects of it. - Discussion can relate to the technology itself or its economics. - Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well. - Be as respectful and nice as possible. This discussion has potential to be more emotionally charged as it may bring up issues that are extremely upsetting: many people are not only financially but emotionally invested in the ideas and tools around Monero. --- ### How it works: - Post your concerns about Monero in reply to this thread. - If you can address these concerns, or add further details to them – reply to that comment. This will make it easily sort-able. - Upvote the comments that are the most valid criticisms of it that have few or no real honest solutions/answers to them. - The comment that mentions the biggest problems of Monero should have the most karma. --- ### Previous: - https://monero.town/post/3962553 --- > The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool. - [Richard Feynman](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman)
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
What's your point?
k4r4b3y 1 month ago • 100%
Last week's Skepticism thread was here: https://monero.town/post/3884733
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 54%
I am indeed salty about INVOLUNTARY taxation.
### Stay on topic: - This thread is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Monero. - NOT the positive aspects of it. - Discussion can relate to the technology itself or its economics. - Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well. - Be as respectful and nice as possible. This discussion has potential to be more emotionally charged as it may bring up issues that are extremely upsetting: many people are not only financially but emotionally invested in the ideas and tools around Monero. --- ### How it works: - Post your concerns about Monero in reply to this thread. - If you can address these concerns, or add further details to them – reply to that comment. This will make it easily sort-able. - Upvote the comments that are the most valid criticisms of it that have few or no real honest solutions/answers to them. - The comment that mentions the biggest problems of Monero should have the most karma. --- ### Previous: - https://monero.town/post/3820563 --- > The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool. - [Richard Feynman](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman)
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
I am not in the business of rescuing the world.
Aight. Good for you.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
first you are wrong.
wrong about what?
Excluding smartphone slaves would be a big plus.
Depending on your goal. If your goal is to have an exclusive club of monero users, yeah, be my guest. But if you want to reach some critical mass with your monero-related discussion community, some level of ease of access to the discussion medium helps.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Without user login, just to read.
That's not the issue here. The issue is: a new monero community member cannot create a new reddit account and partake in the discussions there. You absolutely cannot create new threads on reddit as a new user (ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE REGISTERED VIA THE ONION URL OF REDDIT). You will 1) get filtered by reddit's auto-filters 2) get filtered by monero subreddit mods' autofilters.
If someone wants to discuss a Reddit post, they can link that post here on Monero.Town. Then, if the posts here are better than the posts on Reddit, users will start linking to them here. This will eventually bring users here.
That sounds like a good transition strategy to the Town.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Looks cool, I might drop by in the coming days.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Yes, no mobile device access is a big hurdle.
### Stay on topic: - This thread is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about **Monero.** - NOT the positive aspects of it. - Discussion can relate to the *technology* itself or its *economics*. - Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well. - Be as respectful and nice as possible. This discussion has potential to be more emotionally charged as it may bring up issues that are extremely upsetting: many people are not only financially but emotionally invested in the ideas and tools around Monero. --- ### How it works: 1. Post your concerns about Monero in reply to this thread. 2. If you can address these concerns, or add further details to them -- *reply to that comment.* This will make it easily **sort-able.** 3. Upvote the comments that are the *most valid criticisms* of it that *have few or no real honest* solutions/answers to them. 4. The comment that mentions the biggest problems of Monero *should have the most karma.* --- > The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool. - [Richard Feynman](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman)
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Andre Saltz
He left Manyverse development 2 months ago. Someone else hopefully will take up the mantle.
Matrix
I don't think matrix is censorship resistant at all. It relies on DNS, which is centralized. Also, these criticisms of matrix are valid reasons to not pick it imo: https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Web interface of what? Manyverse?
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
They hate us cuz they ain' us.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Where can I begin with SSB? Sadly, almost all of its clients seem like they are abandoned development.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
how/where do you get the initial amount?
Get some LTC from a non-KYC crypto ATM. Use stack wallet to exchange LTC into XMR. Then, off to Haveno you go. Stack more neros.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
That's cool. I might try nostr for that, although I still think secure scuttlebutt's design is better.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
What makes it "Monero"? Does it have a monero send/receive functionality?
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Brighteon
Wasn't it video sharing site? Since when's it a social media/forum?
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Sure. I will be here this Sunday, as well.
k4r4b3y 2 months ago • 100%
Lemmy has a lot of potential for replacing reddit for long form written, indexed, searchable and structured (all as opposed to irc/matrix discussions) discussion medium.
This is the context of my message. Irc/matrix are different comms medium than reddit/lemmy. So, I do 't see the relevance of your message.
EDIT: Now I understand the context of your message--my bad! Agreed, Monero comminity should free its discourse from the shackles of reddit.
If this place going to be a larger Town hall (and eventually supercede the one on the user-hostile reddit servers) we need traditions that foster discussion **in here.** Look, I also hate reddit, and it would be better if the Monero subreddit there was stale and inconsequential (see: https://monero.town/post/3725287 ), but the truth is its reverse: the Town is a near-ghost Town; which is a shame! Lemmy has a lot of potential for replacing reddit for long form written, indexed, searchable and structured (all as opposed to irc/matrix discussions) discussion medium. But we need to get people have sticking, lasting reasons to post here. In order to make posters in here get into the habit, here are my suggestions: 1. Adopt "skepticism sundays," threads from /r/Monero. The Town should be the place to air out skeptic discussions on monero, we shouldn't need to br put up with reddit's automated filtering of posts and millionth captchas, just to post there. 2. Adopt "weekly discussion" threads from /r/Monero. Again, the /c/monero should foster posters to post more frequently in here, with threads like this. --- We hate reddit. Reddit is simply **unusable**. New monero community members are unable to get their opinions heard and take part in the convo. It is up to us to have a haalthier discourse environment in the community.
A few days ago I created a reddit account just for "taking part in the discussion." However, here are the absolutely frustrating experiences I had: 1. You can create an account if you give reddit your email, but you CANNOT login via reddit's onion URL. Reddit will keep having "we had a problem," and "an error with the server occurred", after you have solved your 5th captcha with a screenful of bicycles to click on. No way to login anonymously. 2. You will have to login to your account via the clearnet URL of reddit. Damn.. But OK, everything for " contributing to the community, we are a diverse one, after all right? Make your voice heard". Alright. I login on clearnet. Reddit still gives me a red banner with some error message, like a sack of shit splashing on my desk, but lets me in this time. Good, finally "be a part of the conversation!". Start my first thread announcing my Turkish translation of monero.garden (see MoneroBahce.com). Hit send. Instantly reddit filters my post. My post and voice are not visible whatsoever. --- Seriously, why are we taking reddit seriously as a discussion platform; and moreover, why are we making it the centrepiece of written, long-form Monero discussion? Why is that place have such a large role in taking a pulse of the Monero users?
Downloaded the release 6.0.0-beta1 pre-release version of AppImage to my Qubes-Whonix. Then, created an encrypted archive (18 MB) of my android simplex using simplex app, and got my download link for migration to the desktop app. On the desktop appimage, I pasted this link, and it has been "DOWNLOADING LINK DETAILS" for 15 minutes now. Is this feature working yet, or am I waiting in vain?
See the announcement post on my blog: **clearnet:** https://karapara.kyun.li/posts/introducing_monerobahcecom/ **tor:** http://karaparawplotu233ux7adtiaqswdthdk6kiqqovgy4ldp2dseijwnad.onion/posts/introducing_monerobahcecom/
Backstory: I had a debian 11 VPS. I installed the postgresql program from the debian 11 apt repo, back a few months ago. Back then, it was postgres 13 on the debian stable repos. Fast forward couple months: debian 12 comes out. I do a "apt dist-upgrade" and in-place upgrade my VPS from debian 11 to debian 12. Along with this upgrade, comes postgresql 15 installed. Now, fast forward couple more months: lemmy 0.18.3 comes out. I do not upgrade (I am on lemmy 0.18.2---afaik). Fast forward some time, too: lemmy 0.18.4 comes out. I decide to upgrade to 0.18.4 from my existing 0.18.2. I pull the git repo. Compile it locally. It goes well, no errors in the compilation process. I stop the lemmy systemd service, then I "mv" the compiled "lemmy_server" to /usr/bin dir. I try to restart the now-upgraded lemmy systemd service. However, the systemd service fails. I check the `sudo journalctl -fu lemmy` and I see the following error message: ``` lemmy_server[17631]: thread 'main' panicked at 'Couldn't run DB Migrations: Failed to run 2023-07-08-101154_fix_soft_delete_aggregates with: syntax error at or near "trigger"', crates/db_schema/src/utils.rs:221:25 ``` I report this issue here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3756#issuecomment-1686439103 However, after a few back and forths and internet search, I conclude that somewhere between lemmy 0.18.3 and 0.18.4, lemmy stops supporting psql <15. So, my existing DB is not compatible. Upon my investigation on my VPS setup, I concluded that psql 15 is running, however, lemmy is using the psql 13 tables (I do not know if this is the correct term). Now my question: is there a way to import the lemmy data I had in the psql 13 tables to a new psql 15 table (or database, I don't know the term). To make things hairier: I also run a dendrite server on the same VPS, and the dendrite server is using the psql 15 with psql 13 tables on the same database as the lemmy one. The dendrite database is controlled by a psql user named "dendrite" and the lemmy database is controlled by a psql user named "lemmy" . I hope this makes differentiation between two databases possible. And so I do not harm my existing dendrite database. Any recommendations about my options here?