Would I be able to join the IRC channel with Element/Riot? How would I do that?

Well, not all hackers are anarchists (in fact I don't think the majority of hackers are). So I didn't want to put it there.

For example, ESR is a classical liberal, many of the hackers who post are Marxist-Leninists, and there are even some hackers who are conservative.

Manjaro has done some shady things. I think Mobian is more promising.

https://lemmy.ml/post/38078

Hahaha I'm the one who wrote that paragraph.

If anarchy means no laws or anything,

Wait wait wait. Anarchy means lack of hierarchy, not lack of laws. Put very simply, anarchism is a philosophy that combines revolutionary socialism with egalitarian direct democracy and a libertarian commitment to individual freedom.

what if people naturally form their own governments? Is that not allowed?

The hope is that once people experience anarchy they won't want to go back. Forming your own government is allowed as long as you get the consent of the governed (which is not likely in a successful anarchist society because people would be perfectly happy not to be governed)

won’t the people with the most physical power rule the world?

No, the people with the most numbers rule the world. Because one man/woman with lots of physical power is no match for a mob. Dictators don't rise by strong-arming the populace, they rise by gaining the support of the populace.

Surprised that Scala and Haskell are so low on that list, given all the hype for functional programming. And Elixir/Erlang aren't even on the list

Nobody was getting rich off the workers in USSR. There was no generational wealth, and top pay was capped at 8x lowest pay. Politicians and administrators also weren’t the highest paid professions in USSR. Labour was predominantly directed towards socially useful work and the benefit of the state.

Do you have any unbiased, well-researched sources for this (not USSR propaganda)?

I’m open to suggestion as to how a better system could be formed, but I have not seen any working alternatives so far. The reality is that the world is ruled by capitalist empires that will actively work to tear down any socialist nations as soon as they form. Any more liberal alternative to Marxism-Leninism has to be able to defend against that.

The whole idea of "socialist nations" is very antiquated and impractical; instead of building "socialist nations" through violent revolution, we should aim for socialist spaces within the framework of a pluralistic society. If people can experience multiple systems of social organization for themselves, they will be able to decide for themselves which one is superior. For example, we should build free software (like Mastodon), we should build co-operatives and communes, we should establish info-shops and bookstores, etc. Eventually, when people realize that socialist societies can succeed at small scale, they will be more willing to support us, and our spaces will grow in power. Only at the point where the majority agrees with socialism can we begin talking about breaking away from the state, i.e. revolution.

Why do they write system monitors in Python? Do people realize that when I'm checking a system monitor that means my computer is running slowly, and I don't need a super heavy Python script to make it run even slower?

When people think of socialism they think of pictures of gray buildings and limited variety in clothes and consumer goods.

Are you sure? Because I think of something like this:

I’d argue that we have clear evidence that the communist model works quite well in the physical world. Consider what USSR managed to accomplish in an incredibly short period of time. Russia went from a backwards agrarian society under Tsarism, through the devastation of WW2, to being the first nation in space. USSR was a world leader in technology, and it was doing it on a far smaller budget than capitalist US.

I would argue that the USSR was not truly communist or socialist since it also exploited workers - it was just the government exploiting workers, instead of private corporations. Russia's rapid industrialization was due to the fact that Stalin was literally willing to mass murder peasants who didn't give up all their grain to the government so the government could give it to factories and industrial projects - a policy that was incredibly brutal, but worked.

A pattern I've noticed in history is that the speed of industrialization is dependent mostly on how much state power is aligned with the bourgeoisie (in "communist" countries they may not call themselves the bourgeoisie but they certainly act like it, pursuing "development" and "progress" over all else). In Britain, the enclosure movement used massive state power to force peasants to give their land to large landowners to be farmed more efficiently and forced peasants into the city to take up miserable factory jobs. In the Soviet Union, Stalin's forced collectivization and grain confiscation did the same. And today in China, the same is being done.

In many ways Marx was very right. Nobody but the bourgeoisie (or a "communist" party that acts like the bourgeoisie) can successfully pursue industrialization, because a (democratic) socialist government would never have the brutality and coercion required to successfully force a drastic and unprecedented change of lifestyle for the majority of the population.

While it’s true that mass scale exploitation under capitalism can increase the amount labour that’s generated, a lot of that labor ends up being applied towards things that have questionable value to society. As with your example of clothing production. Capitalist model creates a huge amount of waste because companies need to continue selling new clothing. A socialist model would simply produce less clothing that lasts longer, which is far more efficient.

Touché. Agree on that one.

Guess it's time to whip out EMACS like a real hacker...

Sadly I can't figure out how to configure any editor but VSCode to have decently ergonomic IDE like features, so it's VSCode for now :(

• Google with Chrome OS (Gentoo, Wayland, GNU/Linux and a ton of other open-source apps and libraries) and Android (Linux)
• Most web servers run open source operating systems (FreeBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux)
• Widely used languages in proprietary software development: C/C++ (GNU Compiler Collection, clang/LLVM, GNU libc, Boost, and a ton of major math/graphics/etc libraries), Python (cpython, Django, numpy), Ruby (Rails), and PHP
• WebKit (Safari) is a fork of KHTML, and Blink (Chromium) is a fork of WebKit, so both Chrome and Safari are based on KHTML, which was a (now discontinued) open-source browser engine developed by the KDE project
• Darwin (foundation for macOS, iOS) is derived from BSD

These are just a few examples off the top of my head. There are many more.

Many people (e.g. Eric S Raymond) would argue that this type of efficiency gain from switching to a communist economic model is only experienced in the software industry. The reasoning behind that would be that software (and other digital contentworks) has special traits: it is cheap to produce and infinitely reproducible (the economics of free software are essentially post-scarcity economics).

On the other hand, certain industries, like the mass production of clothing and mining for precious metals, would massively lose out as a result of a communist economic model because they can no longer extract maximum value from laborers by underpaying them and must provide quality working conditions, which would result in a decrease in productivity. Additionally, there would be an allocational problem: if a resource is scarce, where should it be sent, and for what purpose should it be used?

It should be noted that I'm not intending to criticize socialism in any way - it's just that socialists should gain a better understanding of economics so that socialism can be presented as a highly sophisticated alternative economic system rather than some knee-jerk ramblings.

EDIT: Crossposted your post to /c/debatepolitics in a shameless effort to promote my community :)

I use sublime

uses proprietary software to avoid Microsoft

It's a replacement for UNIX users. Basically, instead of adding yourself to /etc/passwd, you create a file called /home/<username>.home. This file is an encrypted archive containing your home folder and a file called .identity that contains your group memberships and other user attributes.

The idea is that you can pick up your "home file" and plop it on any system with systemd-homed and it should work without further intervention. It also makes it incredibly easy to encrypt your home directory.

Oh goodness, I write TypeScript in VSCode, use Github at times, and package with NPM. Microsoft has got me!

I license all my open source server code with the AGPL, and all the better if Google can't steal my work :smiling face with sunglasses:

Kate and KDevelop aren't half bad and they're pretty lightweight, although I personally use VSCode because of intellisense support for a variety of languages.

GNU, Linux, Python, KDE, Firefox

Manjaro

Aged like milk :)

What is your interpretation of the situation?

Check out his blog. He refers to people as "NPCs," opposes democracy, uses 4chan memes incessantly, called Alex Jones "based," and said multiple times that he's "red-pilled."

If he's not a Nazi he really needs to make a video explaining why he uses Nazi terminology.

Nothing? Do you consider misuse of OpenCollective funds and silencing and removing core project members for doing their jobs "nothing"?

Can't you get portage if you enable dev mode on a ChromeOS machine?

It has literally nothing that Atom/VSCode don't have. Why did they even release this?

Yes. It's based on Gentoo.

Calling people "vulgar revisionists" isn't going to foster constructive debate. If you want to debate social democracy vs. revolutionary Marxism I would encourage you to open a new thread about that.

Luke Smith is a Nazi.

Oh sorry, that's just the title of the original article.

Are the moderators of this community members of the official KDE team?

There's only one moderator (/u/muesli) and he does contribute to KDE.

https://fribbledom.com/projects/

I've tried Starship and in my experience it's actually really slow and buggy compared to most regular shell/python prompts.

Just because something is ~written in Rust~ doesn't mean it's good software.

One very positive aspect of Electron is in helping finally make Linux desktop a first class citizen.

I wonder why GTK+/Qt can't do the same. Both of them are very capable cross-platform frameworks that support several languages.

You forgot Neoliberalism, its important cause its the main ideology of western capitalism.

Neoliberalism is under "liberalism."

Also not sure why you put Marxism in the center seemingly, when Social Democrats are for capitalism in practice.

I didn't intend for there to be any particular order. But now that you've pointed it out, I'll fix the ordering.

Also there is nothing wrong with discussing fascism, as long as its not promoted. You cant fight something if you dont understand it.

Ah okay, thanks for the permission. I will research a bit and add a section in.

I don't think this belongs in /c/announcements.

I would argue that it doesn't matter what's natural or not - killing is wrong, and unless you're vegan, having children is killing since the greater the human population the greater the number of animals that need to die to feed it.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I'm an anarchist personally so my ideas obviously differ quite a bit from yours. I hope we can still agree on some basic definitions though!

Leftists don’t necessarily want a “theoretical utopia”. Some tendencies do, but so do some rightist tendencies.

Which rightist tendencies want a theoretical utopia?

The leftist tendency that I uphold — Marxism-Leninism — has been tried many times with considerable success, so not an utopia. You’re correct that we want to change the current system, but not towards a theoretical utopia, but towards a very real other system.

Marxism-Leninism still wants a communist utopia as a long-term end-goal, right?

Defining socialism as “economic system similar to capitalism but with public investments taking the place of private investments” is misleading at the very least, and doesn’t get the key features of socialism, such as a central planning (which removes many of the problems of capitalism). “In a socialist economic system, corporations are incentivized to improve society.” — No, corporations in the form that they are under capitalism will be abolished under socialism. The revenue that the corporations take for themselves under capitalism will be used for building infrastructure and public services — “improving society”, if you want to call it that.

Not all socialisms are centrally planned; some socialisms follow decentralized planning and/or market economics (see Kevin Carson's Mutualism, Participatory Economics, and Richard Wolffe's market socialism).

You bring up a good point though; I should expand on the definition of socialism to include several different socialist economic models.

I don’t disagree with this definition of communism. But I want to point out that rather than realize such a system immediately, communists want to establish socialism first, as a kind of transition stage.

Only Marxists want to do that. Anarcho-communists want to establish communism immediately.

I wouldn’t call liberalism leftist. It’s rather centrist, or even rightist. You say that “Rightists want to keep the current system”. And the current system in, for instance, the EU and the USA (and also in many other states), is liberalism, somehow mixed with conservatism and social democracy.

I tend to consider liberalism to be leftist because it's idealistic and shares core values with leftist tendencies (e.g. liberty, democracy, justice, equality/meritocracy). Plus, liberalism has been historically leftist and is still leftist in many countries (e.g. China, Turkey).

How is social democracy derived from Marxism? Marx criticized socdems at various times. I’m not too sure about the theoretical roots (feel free to correct me if you can show a socdem theoretic actually basing their work to Marx’s theories), but the social democracy that is dominant in Europe is definitely nothing that Marx ever endorsed or based on his works anyhow.

The "fathers" of Social Democracy (at least according to Jacobin Magazine) - Eduard Bernstein and Karl Kautsky - were both Marxists. But you're right to say that it's very different from Marxism today.

What do you mean with “socialists don’t want to re-establish the Soviet Union”? I mean, material conditions are different for every country, and you can’t “re-establish the Soviet Union” in countries that never belonged to the Soviet Union. And of course we don’t want to copy everything from the USSR one-by-one. But we don’t consider the USSR a big failure either — it did have flaws, it did make mistakes that ultimately made it collapse, but still it was the first in the world country to build socialism, it could recover from a devastating civil war, defeat the German fascist invaders, and become a world superpower that could rival the USA. We want to take what was good and repeat it, while avoiding the mistakes that made it fall.

That's fair. I put that in there because a lot of people (especially people in the U.S.) tend to equate leftism/socialism with Stalinism and Soviet apologia, which is definitely not true since many socialist tendencies exist, many of which have consistently opposed the Soviet Union.

You're describing a philosophical position known as anti-natalism.

Not only is life pure suffering, it also damages the environment - since humans are in competition with other species for survival, every human being that survives means another animal of another species that has to die. And it takes tremendous resources - think fossil fuels and minerals - to keep a human being reasonably happy and healthy, resources which are both non-renewable and cause damage to the environment when they are extracted and/or used.

Definitely xbps (Void's package manager).

• Really fast, slightly faster than pacman.
• You can quit in the middle of a package download and it will pick it right up when you run the command again.
• It can show which packages you manually installed (xbps-query -l -m).
• It can draw really sophisticated dependency graphs for packages.
• It has a sophisticated and customizable hook system that can, for example, automatically update your EFI boot entries when you update the kernel.
• It can automatically track dynamic library dependencies and supports partial upgrades.