hey I'm still around

Caris 40 piece incoming

let's get this season started!

Why do you need to use something? Maybe just stop buying so much sh

We love Ricky in CLE so whatever needs to happen for him to be happy will make us happy

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38138955/cavs-pg-ricky-rubio-pause-career-focus-mental-health

Here's the ESPN article in case the other page doesn't suit you.

Not sure what this means for him or the Cavs going forward but I just hope he makes the right decision for himself and his family. I think we'd all like to see him back in a Cavs uniform and return to his form from 2 years ago.

Thanks for joining us. Right now is incredibly slow, but during free agency we had some good posts from various users. I think things will get much better when there is real basketball discussion to be had.

#9 - Cleveland Cavaliers

2022-23 record: 51-31

Result: Lost East first round

2024 title odds: +2500

After the franchise's momentum was stalled with a first-round flameout against New York, the Cavs have had a strong offseason -- from adding Max Strus and Georges Niang to rookie Emoni Bates looking like a potential steal in Cleveland's run to the summer league championship. Still, the biggest question remains if the team can make enough strides next season to convince Donovan Mitchell to extend and make The Land his home. -- McMenamin

at least he found a fall man

Isaiah Mobley dominated all summer, Sam showed he's 27 and Emoni grew game after game and showed he could fit in a system.

Let's go Cavs!

Does the big Z rule apply here? I'd love to see him back on the Cavs

How much would he get in a sign and trade? And how much is he worth talent wise?

I think he'd be a good add overall, given another 3pt shooting big would be nice. Just from a glance I'd have no problem giving up Dean Wade and some other bottom of the roster stuff. But that may just be an insulting offer for the Hornets

Why did he pick up his player option then? He could have gone to Houston for a max deal and no one could have stopped him.

Getting a second coaches challenge after winning the first seems like a no brainer. I would love for flops to be taken out of the game so I'll be cautiously optimistic about that change.

Emoni absolutely showed out this game. He's been getting better every game and this one was a cherry on top for the summer. I hope he earns some minutes this season, I'd love to see him hit his shots against legit NBA talent.

I would disagree with that. It's not really bizarre given leagues around the world do this to great success. Also I don't think the NBA is so single minded that they only worked on this in season tournament and nothing else to improve the game. I'm also not sure that very much time even needed to be spent on this idea given how it's already in place in other leagues and at the top level it's not very complex.

At the end of the day it was a pretty minor change to the existing infrastructure with respect to how much improvement it could impose. I see it as no negative with possible positive.

Sam Merrill straight up doesn't belong here. He's an NBA player and it just doesn't look fair (going back to last game).

So I don't see teams purposely losing, since it's not like they play more games unless they play in the final. At which point the different between 100k then 200k and 500k is not nothing. Even if some players or teams could care less about the tournament, I can't see them treating it less than a regular season game at the very least.

On your second point, yeah that's incredibly stupid. If the guys play in the games they should get paid for playing in the games. You're playing in an NBA game against NBA teams in an NBA tournament with payouts to players based on how far you go.

Why is everyone so actively negative about this? I get not caring at all, but there's clearly more than that. If you don't like this tournament...just pretend they're regular season games and nothing changes. If you already don't watch regular season games... keep not watching regular season games and nothing changes.

I'm liking the Cavs group. Philly is a real threat but I truly think our guys can take that group.

Additionally, Copy and pasted from the NBA thread:

500k each for the winners all the way down to 50k for the 8th place team will no doubt bring out some good competition. That’s some pretty nice dough even for the max contract guys. Who doesn’t want an extra 50k of pocket change? Especially going forward when the 5th place team sees other guys getting hundreds of thousands more than them, that’ll no doubt bring out the competitive spirit in a lot of guys.

East Group B is looking to be a bloodbath, same with West Group A.

I wonder if scheduling will cause any weird issues like playing a team 5 times or an intraconference team only twice. I suppose you could have games later in the season against team A or team B depending on who of your group went on to the knockout stage.

500k each for the winners all the way down to 50k for the 8th place team will no doubt bring out some good competition. That's some pretty nice dough even for the max contract guys. Who doesn't want an extra 50k of pocket change? Especially going forward when the 5th place team sees other guys getting hundreds of thousands more than them, that'll no doubt bring out the competitive spirit in a lot of guys.

East Group B is looking to be a bloodbath, same with West Group A.

I wonder if scheduling will cause any weird issues like playing a team 5 times or an intraconference team only twice. I suppose you could have games later in the season against team A or team B depending on who of your group went on to the knockout stage.

the amount of resources it would cost us more than we realistically have and the cap space isn't there. we have 17 mil after all the cap moves for this year. he costs 33 this year, plus 16 going forward which we also can't afford. we could trade someone with a big contract, but we still need to add picks to that package.

Maybe you can't with Max contracts due to the max cap % you can pay out and then the annual raise restrictions and all that, but you always could with sub max contracts. You can also just split up the contract evenly, like Jarrett Allen's deal. He gets 100 mil for 5 years and every year he gets 20 mil. Which is in practice a regressive contract where his % cap hit decreases year over year.

What you said is interesting in that it doesn't seem to happen that often, where you could butt up against the cap one year, get relief for future years with a regressive contract. Maybe it's just the belief in kicking the can down the road and counting on cap increases while maximizing current rosters.

Emoni looked like he belonged. In the first 3 minutes he took about 5 3's, but that was what I wanted to see. He tried on defense and moved to open space really well. The fact is, this kid can shoot the rock. But he can't finish at the rim, like at all. And will have to, to be more than a 3 point specialist.

I am very excited to see Isaiah Mobley, Luke Travers and Emoni Bates. Probably at best 1 of them makes the roster this year, but they are still the most exciting prospects to me.

I personally love this. People were so negative about the idea of an in season tourney... but what's the worst that could happen? The worst is that nothing changes and this tourney is irrelevant. The best case scenario is we get an awesome in season tournament and get a small preview of the post season.

The 'ole Ben Simmons Special

yeah thats a bummer. I would've liked Bamba for this squad

this is silly to me. isn't he like 15 and not a generational HS prospect?

I'm with you. it's a lateral move in my opinion and you'd be giving up picks and another player to move your timeline up 6 years. on the other hand, moving some contracts and sending all the picks to team up the Js and Dame would be terrifying for the east. and that seems a lot better than Herro, UDFA filler and 2 firsts. why would Portland send a super star away for a sub all star package?

Our roster composition by position:

PG - 2

SG - 6

SF - 0

PF - 3

C - 2

We now have 7 guards and 0 small forwards on the roster.

I'm definitely concerned that our biggest weakness is SF and we traded 2 rotation SF's for what appears to be a shooting guard (who is probably 3rd on the depth chart behind Donovan and Caris, unless he gets traded). Can Strus play the 3? And does he play defense? I definitely don't know much about him, so I'd love to have any incorrect assumptions pointed out.

Cavs Free Agency

UFA Georges Niang (3/26) - I'm assuming we used 8.5 of the MLE on this contract

Sign and trade Max Strus (4/63) for Cedi Osman and Lamar Stevens

Caris Lavert re-upped on a 2 year 32 mil contract.

Pretty happy with these moves so far considering we didn't have a lot of assets or any cap room available. Sad to see Cedi and Lamar go, but you have to give up something to get something.

This is a very friendly contract. Caris is easily worth 16 mil a year and even if he's not we have to sign him because we don't have the cap space to replace him.

I don't know much about George's game but 40% 3 pt shooter at 5 a game and 90% ft shooter at the 4 spot is definitely a nice addition. Only getting 2.5 rebounds in 20 minutes is definitely concerning.

Also does anyone know if this is just a standard contract or did we have to use our MLE or other exception?

My ublock has been at a constant "0" on this site since I've started. A youtube tab will have over a hundred by the end of a 10 minute video.

i just got permanantly banned from the Cavs sub for this comment

cavsfan9000 0 points 7 minutes ago i would like to announce that all Cavs mods who stepped down are more than welcome to join us at https://lemmy.world/c/cavaliers. as well as anyone else who would like to help build a new community. that is with full respect to everyone here and what everyone in this Cavs sub that may be disenfranchised with the current state of things.

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