• bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 66%

    Earlier I made pintos de olla with corn and brown rice. Later, I had a bunch of leftovers, so I made pinto burgers to freeze

    This recipe will get you there. My beans were already flavored because of how I cooked them, but for seasoning, I'd suggest taco seasoning like cumin, coriander, oregano, garlic, onion, chiles, lime, etc. Mash up the beans with a fork or potato masher then add everything else. Form into patties by hand. I put them in the fridge to set for 20 minutes then cook in the oven or freeze for later

    Also go vegan, it's easier than hurting animals

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    I had some leftover ramen broth, leftover pickled veggie juice, sumac, mushroom seasoning, and jerk spice. Sounds gross but it all worked out perfect

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    Thanks!

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    Turmeric and persian spices 🙏

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    My friend ordered them from the website then gave a bunch to me

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    pea soup with smokey sweet tofu

    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a3456a91-60b5-4876-bb87-0f64d24621a4.jpeg)

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    pinto burger

    with fried onion, avo, enchilada sauce, and butter lettuce

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    Secretive Federal Agency’s Days of Killing Pets With Poison Bombs May Finally Be Ending https://archive.is/HXehc

    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/be772e9b-f647-49cd-a82a-80f907be227e.jpeg)

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    Vegan Home Cooks bulbasaur 1 year ago 88%
    tofu veggie stir fry

    with leftover rice

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    noochy salad
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    Tofu and black salt for the egg, with nooch if you want the flavor of the yellow. I'd do tahini for the mayo

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 66%

    You can def get tamarind stuff at indian and mexican markets

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    ty :)

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 50%

    What did they say?

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    celery stew, rice, and stuffed eggplant

    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/26ba5bd1-eac8-4d24-8f0f-3610ade9989c.jpeg) ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5ef554c1-bf30-4015-9012-849bef0f04a6.jpeg)

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    pancrêpes

    added baking soda and powder to my crêpe batter, so now they're fluffy like pancakes but still roll up like crêpes

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 66%

    🙏

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    Kidney beans, brown rice, oats, banana ketchup, and spices

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    Fries lol

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    Yes 😋

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    hummus and okara seitan sandwich

    with lettuce, cucumber, and dill pickled cabbage on the side

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    Okara seitan loaf

    3:3:1:1 okara / vwg / oats / mushrooms, plus broth and nooch and spices

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    Very refreshing 🙏😊

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    Cassava pounded into dough. They're the dumplings in my soup

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fufu

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    Kongguksu (Korean chilled soymilk soup)

    Made with fresh soymilk, rainbow wheat noodles, cucumber, seeds, seaweed, gochujang, kimchi, and ice 😋 ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/eb498b35-e3fa-43ff-b046-8df299bb5005.jpeg)

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    Soy milk from scratch

    plus date syrup

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    bbq bean borgar with pickled salad

    it's a novick burger

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    Jerk soy curl soup with fufu

    and cabbage and kabocha 😋 I made a big pot of it ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3c50edef-4e43-42b6-8e1a-b2a6db2c88f9.jpeg)

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    Black beans, but yes

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    beans and rice, babey

    also carrots and butternut squash hiding in the beans

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    Vaccination does not modify your genes, so it's completely irrelevant to this conversation

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    veggie pasta
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    Idk this is the first time I've made it

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    sesame milk

    tahini + date syrup + pinch of salt + water in a blender

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    The Patriot Act is evil, laws against eugenics are good

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    The tricky philosophical line here for me is - what are we allowed to say parents can’t do in regards to what they see as improving their children’s life?

    Eugenics, parents can't do fucking eugenics

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    You can fight the system

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    There's no difference actually. You seem uneducated about eugenics

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    Eugenics is actually disgusting and horrific and totally inconsistent with the values of anyone who isn't a nazi

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    They're so easy to make. Hardest part is making sure I have leftover rice to use lol

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    Mash up the beans with a fork or potato masher. Then add the rest of the ingredients. I mixed them together with my hands. You have to let them set in the fridge for 20 minutes. I cooked my patty in a pan on the stove, but you can grill or bake them too!

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    Vegan Home Cooks bulbasaur 1 year ago 75%
    I'm on the bean burger train

    ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/266f1062-f9da-40c9-a8a4-956e04dfdf23.jpeg) I made a ton to freeze

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    Dried. I tried to grow them, but they plant died :(

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    spicy peanut soy curl lettuce wraps

    Made with soy curls, carrots, kale, onion, and that leftover stir fry I posted three days ago. For the sauce, I used chick'n powder, peanut butter, soy sauce, garlic, and spicy chiltepin pepper

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    in my salad days

    I made a dressing from tahini, balsamic, mustard, date syrup, herbs and spices

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    I had to make space in my overfull freezer 😅

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  • bulbasaur bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%

    😂 I didn't know it was an acronym

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    Strawberry banana nice cream

    frozen bananas + strawberry jam + rice milk That's it :)

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    Teriyaki veggies and tofu bowl

    I made the teriyaki sauce with apple cider 😋

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    It's literally eugenics. There's nothing ungenerous about calling it what it is.

    If you don't see the issue with genetically modifying children without their consent to "enhance" them or make them racially "superior" then I can't help you.

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    The idea that you can modify someone's genes to "enhance" them is bog standard "positive" eugenics. It's literally the definition of eugenics and it's upsetting to me that you are treating this like a debate.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1127045/

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41434-019-0088-1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_eugenics

    New eugenics [...] advocates enhancing human characteristics and capacities through the use of reproductive technology and human genetic engineering.

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    Again, the strange practice the writers chose for this planet was eugenics. It's like writing nazis as a minority. I'm a Jewish person and my family's entire town was slaughtered by nazis. Romani people were also slaughtered in the Holocaust. I'm sure they would not appreciate their murderers being framed as the victims.

    The writers didn't have to depict eugenicists this way, as if their practice was a benign cultural tradition. Eugenics is an awful practice that's killed tens of millions in the real world. It doesn't need apologetics that make people question "but what if we're being mean to the nazis by not letting them do their tradition of genetic modification for the betterment of their race?"

    It's illegal to practice eugenics in the star trek world because the eugenicists literally took over as despots and oppressed everyone during the eugenics wars. Do you think that it would be appropriate to have people who are proud eugenicists come into your society flexing their supposed genetic superiority (another piece of writing I protest btw) and teaching people by their presence that eugenics is actually benign and actually does make one genetically superior to others?

    When I think of the situation with Una, it makes me think of cultural practices like genital mutilation, a backwards practice that parents make for their children, as individuals, that is traditional but hurts their child. It would indeed be fucked up to hurt someone in that way, and it's illegal for good reason. It's not benign, but it also would be cruel to blame the child for something their parents did to them and make it illegal for them to participate in society.

    But genital mutilation isn't genetic modification for the betterment of the race. There's no such thing as genetic superiority, eugenics is a pseudoscience and it's messed up and irresponsible to depict it as an effective benign thing that works at actually making a race superior. The writers should have chosen a different practice than this instead of worrying an episode that does apologia for a terrible practice that is illegal (in universe, not irl unfortunately) for a good reason

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    That's really incorrect. I hate that this episode is spurring eugenics apologia like this

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    I boiled rice milk with garlic and onions, white miso, Italian herbs, crushed red pepper, and a little bouillon.

    Then I added polenta that's in a tube like this (whatever brand is cheap)

    which I cut it up and put in boiling liquid. I like to put it in at the point where it'll dissolve a bit to thicken up the whole thing, but still leave chunks. I then added the chopped up veggies all at around the same time. Mushrooms, then peppers, then kale.

    Last, I added some lactic acid, nooch, and almond flour to thicken it up and make it cheezy.

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    Can't believe I have to tell you that deliberate genetic modification for the enhancement of individuals and species is the definition of eugenics, and that eugenics is not "so obviously acceptable that it’s impossible to even come up with an argument against it that stands up to scrutiny".

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    I really hated this episode for this reason. I hate the thought experiment of "what if we found a planet where everyone practices eugenics and so therefore it's racist to be against eugenics".

    Like if the rest of the world had found an isolated Nazi Germany, would it have been discriminatory and prejudiced to be against their practices? To not let them into the military? Of course not

    Like why even write that plotline? Why are the writers choosing to legitimize eugenics like this, like it ever could be neutral or good and not horrific? I'm unwilling to entertain the idea that there's a good way to do it, just as I'd be unwilling to entertain a fictional society that showed slavery in a positive light

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    Cheezy veggie polenta

    with kale, portabellas, roasted red bell peppers, onions, and garlic

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    So I mixed avocado tomatillo salsa with spicy red salsa (green plus red equals brown alas). And I added cheeziness with pasta water, almond flour, white miso, nooch, garlic, and lime juice.

    There's also bell peppers, mushrooms, and black beans with whole wheat bowtie pasta

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    Salsa mac

    My fam got a couple salsas to try and they were both pretty mid, so I made mac outta them

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    Do you have already made seitan or are you talking wheat gluten like the flour?

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    Noodle soup

    Kabocha, broccoli, peanuts, sesame seeds, kimchi, and rice noodles. I made the broth out of soy sauce, gochujang, and a little mushroom bouillon powder

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    Mango cake

    Used tahini instead of oil to line the casserole

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    Veggie mac
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    Vegan Theory Club bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%
    Respectability politics are absurd on their face

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/194038 > Tone cops always come out of the woodwork to disparage vegans who ask carnists not to hurt animals, no matter how nicely they ask. But they'd never speak up on behalf of animals, bc they benefit from being the "good vegan" and are beloved by human supremacists for enforcing the status quo. Fighting for animal liberation is *incredibly* stigmatized, and pick-me's try to escape that stigma by throwing activists under the bus. This is common in *all* spheres of social justice. > > > Respectability politics have been criticized for being "used to rationalize racism, sexism, bigotry, hate, and violence." For example, Bill Cosby "never gave voice to issues of racism, sexism, the failed public school system, health and economic disparities, mass incarceration or police brutality. Instead, he spent over a decade disparaging Black folk to the delight of white conservatives." which made him controversial in the Black community. > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respectability_politics > > Any challenge to the status quo will be deemed "mean" by those who benefit from it. Misogynists paint those who challenge patriarchy as mean man haters, femin*zis, uppity, unreasonable. [Same thing for activists who fight against racism.](https://youtu.be/UvC4xq32AX8) Human supremacists will always paint vegans as mean bullies for asking them to stop supporting the rape and murder of nonhumans. That doesn't make their framing fair or true. They're just protecting their status quo, which causes the torture and death of over a *trillion* sentient beings every year. Carnists love when pick-me's favor their feelings (about being told to give up their victims' literal corpses) over the feelings of their victims (terror, grief, pain, horror) and the lives of their victims. > > But change doesn't happen when you flatter power and enforce the status quo. Animals will not be liberated by throwing the people who speak out for them under the bus while protecting the people that harm them. Leftists know this already, but they like to forget when it comes to animal liberation

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    Respectability politics are absurd on their face

    Tone cops always come out of the woodwork to disparage vegans who ask carnists not to hurt animals, no matter how nicely they ask. But they'd never speak up on behalf of animals, bc they benefit from being the "good vegan" and are beloved by human supremacists for enforcing the status quo. Fighting for animal liberation is *incredibly* stigmatized, and pick-me's try to escape that stigma by throwing activists under the bus. This is common in *all* spheres of social justice. > Respectability politics have been criticized for being "used to rationalize racism, sexism, bigotry, hate, and violence." For example, Bill Cosby "never gave voice to issues of racism, sexism, the failed public school system, health and economic disparities, mass incarceration or police brutality. Instead, he spent over a decade disparaging Black folk to the delight of white conservatives." which made him controversial in the Black community. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respectability_politics Any challenge to the status quo will be deemed "mean" by those who benefit from it. Misogynists paint those who challenge patriarchy as mean man haters, femin*zis, uppity, unreasonable. [Same thing for activists who fight against racism.](https://youtu.be/UvC4xq32AX8) Human supremacists will always paint vegans as mean bullies for asking them to stop supporting the rape and murder of nonhumans. That doesn't make their framing fair or true. They're just protecting their status quo, which causes the torture and death of over a *trillion* sentient beings every year. Carnists love when pick-me's favor their feelings (about being told to give up their victims' literal corpses) over the feelings of their victims (terror, grief, pain, horror) and the lives of their victims. But change doesn't happen when you flatter power and enforce the status quo. Animals will not be liberated by throwing the people who speak out for them under the bus while protecting the people that harm them. Leftists know this already, but they like to forget when it comes to animal liberation

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    Join the Vegan Theory Club Discord Server! discord.com

    Weekly readings and chill vibes

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    Deer Hunting / Overpopulation Effortpost

    Has anyone ever told you that it's ethical to shoot someone because otherwise, that person might suffer? Hunters are always telling us that they're actually helping deer by murdering them, because there's just so many deer, some of them might starve. It's not very convincing logic. It certainly wouldn't fly if we proposed solving human "overpopulation" through murder. But let's set aside the blatant speciesism for a moment and see whether it's even true that deer are overpopulated and if murder is the best solution if they are. Hunters materially profit off the bodies of deer. Whether or not it's in the deers' best interest to get murdered, it's definitely in the hunter's best interest to be able to exploit and murder deer [year after year](https://www.stoptheshoot.org/why-culls-don-t-work). To that end, deer populations are artificially inflated by deer breeding programs which are paid for by hunting licenses. They breed the deer and "manage" the land ([like clearcutting forests](https://www.pfwebsites.org/chapter/ottertailpforg/files/Forests.pdf), planting deer-preferred plants and requiring tenant farmers to leave a certain amount of their crops unharvested in order to feed the deer, creating the edge habitat that is preferred by deer and also outright feeding the deer) so that the populations increase so that there's always enough stock to hunt. The reality is that there are thousands of “state game farms” across the country artificially breeding animals like deer and pheasants, quail and partridges in the hundreds of thousands and releasing them into hunting ranges. In Wisconsin alone, the state currently registers 372 “deer farms,” according to the [Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection.](https://datcp.wi.gov/Pages/Programs_Services/FarmRaisedDeer.aspx) And when a disease outbreak occurs on these farms, entire herds are “depopulated.” Some even claim that a substantial chunk of their funding comes directly from hunting licenses: https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/funding/charts.html http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/aboutdnr/budget/bottom_line/budget.pdf And the amount of federal funding they get is based off of license sales, too: >The Secretary determines how much to give to each state based on a formula that takes into account both the area of the state and its number of licensed hunters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman%E2%80%93Robertson_Federal_Aid_in_Wildlife_Restoration_Act >Matt Hogan, executive vice president of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, pointed out, “Public support for hunting and fishing is crucial for conservation efforts. State fish and wildlife agencies have been and continue to be funded in large part by the contributions of sportsmen and women through license sales and excise tax payments on hunting and fishing equipment. To put it simply, without hunters and anglers, state fish and wildlife agencies would not be able to do their job conserving and managing wildlife for all Americans to enjoy.” https://web.archive.org/web/20070615231714/http://www.responsivemanagement.com/download/news/newsrls_09_06.pdf The whole point of our agencies is to conserve enough deer *to hunt*. They don't hide that they maintain a high population *on purpose* so that there can always be hunting seasons in perpetuity. They're conserving hunting stock. They're "managing" non-human populations so we don't run out of stock. We're certainly not doing this for the benefit of the deer as sentient individuals who deserve not to suffer; we're doing this because they are completely objectified as resources for our consumption. >An optimum population of deer balances positive demands (e.g., recreational hunting and viewing) with negative demands (e.g., agricultural and ornamental plant damage, vehicle collisions, ecosystem impacts). Despite damage caused by deer, Virginia’s white-tailed deer represent a beneficial economic and social resource. https://dwr.virginia.gov/wildlife/deer/deer-management-program In fact, "conservation" in North American is centered *entirely* on exploitation of resources, not consideration for sentient individuals nor even preservation of species, which is why game animals are bred and bolstered yet predators and other non-useful animals are murdered and driven out. https://www.fws.gov/hunting/north-american-model-of-wildlife-conservation.html >"Professor Thomas Serfass, Frostburg State University, Maryland, chairman of their department of natural resources and biology, told Thuermer: “I would describe the North American Model as incomplete.” >Hunter control depends on it being incomplete. One of the huge elements missing is contributions of federal land management agencies. “Setting land aside in the public domain in perpetuity is probably the most substantive thing we do for wildlife conservation," says the professor. >Thuermer quotes study co-author Molde as saying, “What about this public lands argument. Holy Toledo, that’s a huge subsidy to hunters.” >We, the 94 percent non-hunter public, pay for the lands and services, but are told that hunters have all the rights to destroy our wildlife. We pay — they have the only say. Seems fair to them. >The study's authors begin: “With increased awareness and interest of the general (non-consumptive) public in controversial wildlife management issues such as fur trapping, predator control, trophy hunting, coyote killing contests and wolf reintroduction, a debate is before us as to whether the general public is or should be afforded a proper voice in wildlife management decisions. >“Sportsmen favor the current system, which places a heavy emphasis on their interests through favorable composition of wildlife commissions and a continued emphasis on ungulate management. Non-human predators (wolves, mountain lions, coyotes, ravens and others) are disfavored by wildlife managers at all levels as competition for sportsmen and are treated as second-class citizens of the animal kingdom. Sportsmen suggest this bias is justified because ‘sportsmen pay for wildlife,’ a refrain heard repeatedly when these matters are discussed. Agency personnel and policy foster this belief as well.” https://madison.com/ct/columnist/patricia-randolph-s-madravenspeak-non-hunters-should-claim-rights-to/article_1eeaf0bf-8c11-5c5f-835b-30e73edc8890.html

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    Vegan Theory Club bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%
    Jewish Holocaust survivors and their families speak

    1) [Decoding “Never Again” by Sherry F. Colb](https://mainstreetvegan.net/decoding-never-again-by-sherry-f-colb), whose family were holocaust survivors. > What people mean, then, when they say that a comparison between animal agriculture and the Holocaust must be trivializing to the latter, since they cannot be referencing the magnitude or scale of the injury, must be instead the relative insignificance of the victims of animal agriculture. People who say that the analogy necessarily trivializes the Holocaust plainly regard the nonhuman victims of the injury as trivial individuals. The complaint is “how can you compare grave injuries to beings who matter—human beings—to grave injuries to beings—non-humans—whose lives do not matter and are trivial?” I see this second type of complaint in the notion that comparing animal slaughter with the Holocaust necessarily trivializes the Holocaust, and insofar as that is the complaint, I reject it. It betrays the very lessons that one needs to learn from the Holocaust’s construction of Jews. 2) ["Can the Treatment of Animals Be Compared to the Holocaust?"](https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=33439017) by David Sztybel, the son of Holocaust survivors. Dr. David Sztybel: http://davidsztybel.info > The comparison in general, to the extent that it can be illuminated, cannot successfully be impugned and by alleging that it glosses over particular differences, is insulting, trivializing, or put forward by those who are "Nazi-like." Certainly, it would be viciously circular to assume that animal liberation is mistaken from the start, which makes a comparison offensive, and which in turn is supposed to prove that animal liberation is wrong. I conclude that if all other objections against animal liberation fail, objecting to the Holocaust comparison by itself will not indicate the case for anti-animal liberation. I submit the possibility that some people are deeply offended by the comparison because they are profoundly prejudiced against animals and in favor of human beings, and intolerant of those who hold opinions that are reflective of animal liberationist tendencies. If there were no such thing as discriminatory oppression, there never would have been a Holocaust, but neither could there be what animal liberationists refer to as *speciesism*. Far from the comparison being intrinsically objectionable, it is potentially useful and Illuminating, and may help to underline the gravity of our oppression of nonhuman animals. 3) [“Animals, My Brethren"]( http://neveragain.org.il/articles/animals-my-brethren-edgar-kupfer-koberwitz), by Edgar Kupfer-Koberwitz, who wrote this while in the concentration camp at Daschau > The following pages were written in the Concentration Camp Dachau, in the midst of all kinds of cruelties. They were furtively scrawled in a hospital barrack where I stayed during my illness, in a time when Death grasped day by day after us, when we lost twelve thousand within four and a half months. > [...] I refuse to eat animals because I cannot nourish myself by the sufferings and by the death of other creatures. I refuse to do so, because I suffered so painfully myself that I can feel the pains of others by recalling my own sufferings. 4) [Georges Metanomski, a Holocaust survivor who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising](http://neveragain.org.il/testimonies/jewish-survivors-and-family-members-of-the-victims-speaking-up) > When I see cages crammed with chickens from battery farms thrown on trucks lile bundles of trash, I see, with the eyes of my soul, the Umschlagplatz. When I go to a restaurant and see people devouring meat, I feel sick. I see a Holocaust on their plate. 5) Isaacs Bashevis Singer, [“Enemies, A Love Story”](https://b-ok.cc/book/6009323/f359a9) and [“The Letter Writer”](https://b-ok.cc/book/1933346/759e81) > What do they know-all these scholars, all these philosophers, all the leaders of the world - about such as you? They have convinced themselves that man, the worst transgressor of all the species, is the crown of creation. All other creatures were created merely to provide him with food, pelts, to be tormented, exterminated. In relation to them, all people are Nazis; for the animals it is an eternal Treblinka. 6) Alexandra M., full name withheld, a Holocaust survivor whose family was murdered. ["The Lesson Has Not Been Learned”](http://neveragain.org.il/articles/the-lesson-has-not-been-learned-alexandra-m) > Almost seventy years since that War – and the lesson has simply not been learned. There is not a single memorial in which there’s no mention of those innocent led “like lambs to the slaughter”. Woe is to him, though, who has the audacity to even hint that there’s anything wrong with the lambs themselves being led to slaughter. Woe is to him who compares those past persecutors and today’s; past freedom fighters with today’s. As if those led to slaughter back then were pronounced inferior “by mistake”, whereas those pronounced so today are “truly” inferior. As if one extermination isn’t the same as another, as if rescuers aren’t rescuers wherever they are. As if the calf doesn’t treasure his or her life, as if the hen doesn’t prize her freedom, as if the sow does not enjoy the company of her friends. 7) ["Eternal Treblinka: Our Treatment of Animals and the Holocaust” by Charles Patterson](https://b-ok.cc/s/eternal%20treblinka) In the forward to the book, animal rights activist and daughter of Holocaust survivors, Lucy Rosen Kaplan states: > I came to understand that the oppression of nonhumans on this Earth eclipses even the ordeal survived by my parents. 8) [Eternal Treblinka: Reactions - more survivor and family member accounts](https://web.archive.org/web/20180822000229) > Eternal Treblinka should be on every list of essential reading for an informed citizenry...for the compelling comprehensiveness of the life-and-death story it tells. --National Jewish Post & Opinion > Whether the comparison between the extermination of the Jews and our daily slaughter of millions of 'food' animals evokes agreement or outrage, you will want to read this meticulously researched and compelling treatment of a painful and controversial subject. --Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles > Exceptionally well done. I'll recommend it to many others. A cold shower for relativists cozy in their SUV's, I hope many read it and I hope many Jews, like myself, make room for the lessons within. I don't see it as a diminution of the Holocaust. Quite the opposite. --Paul Allen 9) [Mark Berkowitz (a Mengele Twin)](http://neveragain.org.il/testimonies/jewish-survivors-and-family-members-of-the-victims-speaking-up) > I dedicated my mother’s grave to the geese. My mother does not have a grave, but if she did I would dedicate it to the geese. I was a goose too. 10) [Speech from Alex Hershaft](https://youtu.be/18mZrDujOm0), and you can find several more on YouTube. [Page on Jewish Veg website](https://www.jewishveg.org/holocaust-présentation) 11) [Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer](https://b-ok.cc/book/1231044/33ab07) 12) [Holocaust Survivors Speak: Lessons From The Death Camps](https://bitesizevegan.org/ethics/holocaust-survivors-speak-lessons-from-the-death-camps)

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    Vegan Theory Club bulbasaur 1 year ago 100%
    Almond Milk Myths — Truth or Drought www.truthordrought.com

    The idea that almond milk is the most wasteful milk ever is literally dairy industry propaganda (and here's the receipts)

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