Look for a key in your keyboard labelled as "any" and press it. Setup should run fine afterwards.

Hmmm. I have also installed linux mint xfce from scratch. So far so good. It stuck only one time since this install. And its been 5 days or so i guess.

Oh that makes sense. Thanks!

Ok

Oh yeah i totally agree!

sleep works fine.

Oh, thats very helpful. Thanks

yeah, I have just reseated the RAM lets see if it fixed the problem,

yeah, entire machine locks up. Yeah have tried ssh'ing from mobile and it was stuck one time when i did that during a freeze. have replugged RAM let's see if system freezes again,

have just replugged RAM and lets see if system gets frozen again.

yeah probably this can be an issue.

yeah, i think you might be right about RAM. Because one day i was holding my latop in my one hand and i saw this screen flickering thing. that was the first time this issue happened. And yeah i can not login to tty when the freeze happens this mean system is completely blocked and is not a graphical problem. I dont think its OOM issue as i have enough RAM and no system doesnt slow down a couple of seconds before freezing entirely. The freeze is random and instant and it happens sometimes when i slide laptop so i think its due to RAM loose connection. Not sure if the RAM is soldered one or is detachable. I will try to replug it and see if it fixes the problem. btw the machine in question is macbook pro 2012 and thanks for replying kind stranger!

Edit: the ram is detachable.

nope this is macbook pro 2012

| Output of kinfo

yesterday i had installed linux mint xfce and it did hang once today. can't send kinfo output as i dont have KDE installed anymore

| First few lines of tac /var/log/dpkg.log maybe, or something with apt or dpkg|

from timeshift backup sending you debian kde dpkg logs

2024-07-03 18:55:51 trigproc mailcap:all 3.70+nmu1 <none>
2024-07-03 18:55:51 status half-configured mailcap:all 3.70+nmu1
2024-07-03 18:55:52 status installed mailcap:all 3.70+nmu1
2024-07-03 18:55:52 trigproc fontconfig:amd64 2.14.1-4 <none>
2024-07-03 18:55:52 status half-configured fontconfig:amd64 2.14.1-4
2024-07-03 18:55:52 status installed fontconfig:amd64 2.14.1-4
2024-07-03 18:55:52 trigproc desktop-file-utils:amd64 0.26-1 <none>
2024-07-03 18:55:52 status half-configured desktop-file-utils:amd64 0.26-1
2024-07-03 18:55:52 status installed desktop-file-utils:amd64 0.26-1
2024-07-03 18:55:52 trigproc initramfs-tools:all 0.142 <none>
2024-07-03 18:55:52 status half-configured initramfs-tools:all 0.142
2024-07-03 18:56:18 status installed initramfs-tools:all 0.142
2024-07-03 18:56:18 trigproc hicolor-icon-theme:all 0.17-2 <none>
2024-07-03 18:56:18 status half-configured hicolor-icon-theme:all 0.17-2
2024-07-03 18:56:18 status installed hicolor-icon-theme:all 0.17-2
2024-07-03 18:56:18 trigproc libc-bin:amd64 2.36-9+deb12u7 <none>
2024-07-03 18:56:18 status half-configured libc-bin:amd64 2.36-9+deb12u7
2024-07-03 18:56:20 status installed libc-bin:amd64 2.36-9+deb12u7
2024-07-03 18:56:20 trigproc man-db:amd64 2.11.2-2 <none>
2024-07-03 18:56:20 status half-configured man-db:amd64 2.11.2-2
2024-07-03 18:56:24 status installed man-db:amd64 2.11.2-2
2024-07-03 18:56:24 trigproc dbus:amd64 1.14.10-1~deb12u1 <none>
2024-07-03 18:56:24 status half-configured dbus:amd64 1.14.10-1~deb12u1
2024-07-03 18:56:24 status installed dbus:amd64 1.14.10-1~deb12u1
2024-07-03 18:56:24 trigproc shared-mime-info:amd64 2.2-1 <none>
2024-07-03 18:56:24 status half-configured shared-mime-info:amd64 2.2-1
2024-07-03 18:56:29 status installed shared-mime-info:amd64 2.2-1
2024-07-03 18:56:29 trigproc debianutils:amd64 5.7-0.5~deb12u1 <none>
2024-07-03 18:56:29 status half-configured debianutils:amd64 5.7-0.5~deb12u1
2024-07-03 18:56:29 status installed debianutils:amd64 5.7-0.5~deb12u1

| When did it start to happen

idk exactly but it happened once or twice last week but yesterday it happened like 4 to 5 times in a single day randomly and then i thought switching to another distro or clean install might help but it did freeze once since i have installed mint xfce yesterday.

thank you kind stranger for taking your time to help me out,

| What GPU and driver are you using? Looks gpu driver related to me.

	Subsystem: Apple Inc. 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [106b:00fa]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46
	Memory at a0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
	Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	I/O ports at 2000 [size=64]
	Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [virtual] [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915

00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller [8086:1e31] (rev 04) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller [8086:7270]```

What GPU and driver are you using? Looks gpu driver related to me.

for context, i have been using debian 12 for last 6 months perfectly fine. Its just from last week my laptop is randomly freezing and then I have to hard reset it everytime this happens, (pressing power off button for few seconds to force shutdown).

for context, i have been using debian 12 for last 6 months perfectly fine. Its just from last week my laptop is randomly freezing and then I have to hard reset it everytime this happens, (pressing power off button for few seconds to force shutdown).

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Windows: System needs repairing Me: proceeds to install linux mint

Thanks buddy!

Shop owner is saying that the key was probably replaced and has backlit logo on it and the laptop doesn't have backlit. I am not entirely sure that his statement is right or wrong. Could it be the case that some L440 have backlit and some doesn't i.e. 2 variants of this tinkpad?

You guys use antivirus on linux?

Yeah, 😂

Yeah it was tough to install it on MBP 2012. Before this particular installation i already had tried to install it once or twice and failed due to some bootloader / grub efi issue.

But i came back after months and tried to get feel of KDE on it. Its good but package manager and software repos are very niche. Not easy to find some apps in repos and u can always install from .tar ball but i dont like that approach. So i hoped to another disteo. YaST tools are awesome. It was the package manager / repo why i switched not KDE itself.

You misunderstood me, What I meant was, "gusy, this was setup few months ago". Yeah, I agree, you can still use any distro on an old potato.

Yeah, except one thing which is that my microphone is not working and I had to join from my smartphones for meetings. One night I had my laptop running overnight with charger plugged in and the next morning it was dead. Went to a technician he revived the machine but since then microphone is not working. Even if i plug external mic through 3mm jack it also not works. I am usually busy so can't afford to go back to that technician's shop to get it fixed again. So i am living with this for now. And there are no other shops nearby. Rest is all good! And yeah for future viewer, whenever you install a distro on MBP 2012 no matter what it is (fedora, opensuse, mint) you have to install wifi drivers manually and you might need ethernet or USB tethering to do this.

@DetachablePianist@lemmy.world You will get plasma 6.0 way earlier than me, lol.

Peace :)

I have setup variety to fetch wallpapers from /r/earthporn periodically.

Yes, I believe this will take off in upcoming years.